Topic: Did anybody see Nightline's Devil Debate on abc?
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Sun 03/29/09 01:08 PM
It was pretty good. I will agree with one thing the "against" team said. Our perception of the devil IS outdated. It is a hollywood creation - the horns and pitchfork. Of course THAT GUY does not exist. We need to update it to fit what the bible actually says about him.

I was very impressed with the former hooker. She just told her story. She was on the verge of suicide and had voices telling her to kill herself. Yes, evil spirits are real. You open doors to them through sin. She has a ministry now trying to reform hookers - if you're pro or con - you'd have to agree that is a good thing, right?

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http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=7170007&page=1

Tempers Flare at Debate on the Devil
Does Satan Exist? Sides Square Off During 'Nightline Face-Off'
By DAN HARRIS
and ELY BROWN
March 26, 2009

The concept of Satan provokes strong emotions, and sparks a series of fundamental questions about good and evil, about human nature, and about the nature of God.

Dan Harris moderated a debate on the existence of the devil in the third Nightline Face-Off: Does...

Dan Harris moderated a debate on the existence of the devil in the third Nightline Face-Off: Does Satan Exist? Participating in the debate were Pastor Mark Driscoll of the Mars Hill Church, Annie Lobert of the ministry Hookers for Jesus, spiritual leader and physician Deepak Chopra and Bishop Carlton Pearson.

The question of whether Satan exists is one of the most contentious theological debates possible, and last week four fascinating, polarizing people from around the country convened in Seattle to tackle that topic in the third "Nightline" Face-Off.


According to one poll, 70 percent of Americans believe Satan is real. Some believe he -- and almost all believers say Satan is a "he" -- is a fallen angel. Others believe Satan is a shapeless, malevolent force; the enemy of God. But there are also many people who believe that Satan is a myth, and a dangerous one, because his name is often invoked to justify unspeakable acts of violence.


The Face-Off was hosted at Mars Hill Church, and the church's pastor, Mark Driscoll, argued that Satan does exist. Driscoll is a hip yet hard-line preacher with a young, often tattooed following to whom he preaches a strict doctrine, in which the devil figures prominently.


"It could get intense," Driscoll said of the debate. "It could get passionate. But as long as it doesn't become personal then I think it's OK."


"I don't have a theologian background, but I have 16 years of experience of walking with the Devil so I know he's real for sure," she said.


Lobert is a former prostitute who says she used to see the Devil in the eyes of her johns. Her organization, Hookers for Jesus, ministers to sex workers.


"When people don't believe the devil is real, I feel, my opinion is, they are deceived," she said.


Lobert felt she could "definitely" change minds by "talking from the heart, from experience."



On the other side of the debate was Bishop Carlton Pearson, a former fundamentalist preacher who says he used to cast demons out of his followers.


"What's interesting about this thing tonight is that I've been on both sides," he said. "I was a staunch 'believe it my way or go to hell' kind of preacher for the first half of my life. And I never liked it."


After watching a video of the Rwandan genocide, Pearson said he realized all those people would not be going to hell just because they weren't saved. He declared he no longer believed in the devil or hell, and was called a heretic and lost his church.


He said his views are seen in the evangelical community as "treasonous is some ways. It breaks people's hearts."


Arguing alongside bishop was Dr. Deepak Chopra, a physician and best-selling author of dozens of books and videos on health and spirituality.


"My position is that we have a huge problem with what people call evil in the world and they need a good rational explanation and not an irrational mythical explanation," he said.


"I am not going to do anything to offend [the other side]," he said. But I still have to speak my own truth."



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Sun 03/29/09 01:39 PM
Ya gotta love a hooker!

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Sun 03/29/09 02:03 PM
'We need to update it to fit what the bible actually says about him.'

And of course you assume that the bible's version was correct?

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Sun 03/29/09 02:12 PM
I must say that I find it funny, that one will claim the magical man in the sky exists, but then say it's Obvious that Satan, with horns and pitchfork doesn't.

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