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Topic: Why is it?
Abracadabra's photo
Fri 02/27/09 08:41 PM
Why is it that when you ask a question that people have no answer for they claim that you're 'bashing' their religion?

Shouldn't they be required to either give an answer or acknowledge that it can't be explained? huh

rlynne's photo
Fri 02/27/09 08:46 PM
well seeing as how I don't have a religion, at least not in any traditional sense... I don't know the answer

but why seek answers when you have already concluded that the subject is ludicrous?

Adamal29's photo
Fri 02/27/09 08:46 PM

Why is it that when you ask a question that people have no answer for they claim that you're 'bashing' their religion?

Shouldn't they be required to either give an answer or acknowledge that it can't be explained? huh


You may be reffering to me on this one. Yes on the latter, I will acknowledge, alot of things can't be explained.

Adamal29's photo
Fri 02/27/09 08:47 PM
Hey, where did that thread go? I was going to post something on it...grrrrr

Jill298's photo
Fri 02/27/09 08:49 PM
Abra, it's because in some religions when you question the "writings of God, you are questioning God himself" and that won't be tolerated.
People get defensive when you call attention to things that can't be explained about their God. You should expect people to get upset when you start to rattle their faith. flowerforyou

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Fri 02/27/09 09:15 PM

Abra, it's because in some religions when you question the "writings of God, you are questioning God himself" and that won't be tolerated.
People get defensive when you call attention to things that can't be explained about their God. You should expect people to get upset when you start to rattle their faith. flowerforyou


It's sorta like telling a parent her child is ugly, heaven help ya. Or telling a color blind person something is purple when they see grey, or is that tan?

The Bible tells in it that God says it can't be explained, so why worry? That's the way I look at it. That would be religious faith.

Kat

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 02/27/09 09:19 PM

Why is it that when you ask a question that people have no answer for they claim that you're 'bashing' their religion?

Shouldn't they be required to either give an answer or acknowledge that it can't be explained? huh



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AndyBgood's photo
Fri 02/27/09 09:20 PM
Edited by AndyBgood on Fri 02/27/09 09:33 PM

Why is it that when you ask a question that people have no answer for they claim that you're 'bashing' their religion?

Shouldn't they be required to either give an answer or acknowledge that it can't be explained? huh


I can name three reasons why, fear of not having the answer and saying frankly they do not know, ignorance because they know they are stuck in a part of the philosophy behind their thinking that it forces them to reevaluate their faith and when fear kicks in they get defensive, and lastly, the like others in their faith practice demand conformity in all aspects of their lives including all others around them.

The last one is Sheep Syndrome in the classic sense. They have a very limited sense of personal individuality and want to fit in with their ideals so badly they impose them passively on others. The Catholic church teaches their faith blind obedience where Lutherans are taught to ask questions. The only drawback to Lutheranism is there is still idolatry among them but that is another argument for another thread. With that said the whole thing is that sometimes the indoctrination works so well that any questioning of their faith in any way becomes an act of aggression and then they become defensive.

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SOMETIMES questions are indeed asked in an attacking manner. There is a difference between intellectual curiosity than a question like "How can you believe that Mary is so Sacred she deserves to be worshiped? That is ignorant isn't it" That is an example of a poorly worded question. Some people have very valid questions. Others are just faith driven selfless sheep of another faith or fear attacking through verbal assault in carefully worded machinations of spite. Saying that this question does have many facets and a double edge!




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Fri 02/27/09 09:25 PM

Abra, it's because in some religions when you question the "writings of God, you are questioning God himself" and that won't be tolerated.
People get defensive when you call attention to things that can't be explained about their God. You should expect people to get upset when you start to rattle their faith. flowerforyou


agreed totally. Anybody who is religious, regardless of what they believe in, is going to get a little bit peeved when someone (not necessarily questions) but says there doctrines or what have you is based on ignorant claims. If I remember right, aren't you jill a wiccan or something? If you are (since I am a christian) I would never explain (nor could I) why your practices are false. I just am what I am, and I don't really worry about it. I would, for the sake of argument (if I was a good arguer) ask some questions, about the wiccan religion, but I would never bash it. By the way, I apologize if I got that all wrong on what you believe in. I may be thinking of someone else.

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Fri 02/27/09 09:33 PM
ill take 'questions you already know the answers to' for 400 alex.

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 02/27/09 09:41 PM

ill take 'questions you already know the answers to' for 400 alex.


laugh laugh laugh

That's the safest way to play the game. :wink:

Jill298's photo
Fri 02/27/09 09:43 PM

ill take 'questions you already know the answers to' for 400 alex.
laugh laugh laugh

Adamal29's photo
Fri 02/27/09 09:46 PM


ill take 'questions you already know the answers to' for 400 alex.
laugh laugh laugh


Is this an inside joke? Come on I hate being out of the loop!!sad

Jill298's photo
Fri 02/27/09 09:50 PM


Abra, it's because in some religions when you question the "writings of God, you are questioning God himself" and that won't be tolerated.
People get defensive when you call attention to things that can't be explained about their God. You should expect people to get upset when you start to rattle their faith. flowerforyou


agreed totally. Anybody who is religious, regardless of what they believe in, is going to get a little bit peeved when someone (not necessarily questions) but says there doctrines or what have you is based on ignorant claims. If I remember right, aren't you jill a wiccan or something? If you are (since I am a christian) I would never explain (nor could I) why your practices are false. I just am what I am, and I don't really worry about it. I would, for the sake of argument (if I was a good arguer) ask some questions, about the wiccan religion, but I would never bash it. By the way, I apologize if I got that all wrong on what you believe in. I may be thinking of someone else.
Adam, I don't take any offense to you calling me a wiccan. I do however take offense to you calling it a false practice. Tho, with you being a christian, I can understand why you would be so blinded flowerforyou

Jill298's photo
Fri 02/27/09 09:51 PM
I never claim to be the right way, or the only way. I only claim what works for me. I was a miserable Christian. Loving God shouldn't be so difficult.

Adamal29's photo
Fri 02/27/09 10:03 PM



Abra, it's because in some religions when you question the "writings of God, you are questioning God himself" and that won't be tolerated.
People get defensive when you call attention to things that can't be explained about their God. You should expect people to get upset when you start to rattle their faith. flowerforyou


agreed totally. Anybody who is religious, regardless of what they believe in, is going to get a little bit peeved when someone (not necessarily questions) but says there doctrines or what have you is based on ignorant claims. If I remember right, aren't you jill a wiccan or something? If you are (since I am a christian) I would never explain (nor could I) why your practices are false. I just am what I am, and I don't really worry about it. I would, for the sake of argument (if I was a good arguer) ask some questions, about the wiccan religion, but I would never bash it. By the way, I apologize if I got that all wrong on what you believe in. I may be thinking of someone else.
Adam, I don't take any offense to you calling me a wiccan. I do however take offense to you calling it a false practice. Tho, with you being a christian, I can understand why you would be so blinded flowerforyou
Blinded? I don't know much about wiccans but regardless of what religion one is, isn't the others always considered being blinded. Wouldn't I then be justified to say you are blinded? I mean, it would be just for you to say you think christianity is false..I think. In other words, I wouldn't be offended.

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Fri 02/27/09 10:07 PM
Edited by Jill298 on Fri 02/27/09 10:07 PM
Adam, how is it that you claim you would never bash someone else's religion but you have no problem calling someone else's religion "false"??
I know you did not intend to offend me. And you didn't. I know you are just following your Christian ways, and that is to call my way "false" but just so you know... that is also a way of bashing someone else's religion.
I'm not flat out calling christianity "false". It just didn't work for me. It makes not one single tiny bit of sense to me. However, it works for some people. And if they don't cause harm to others, then let them praise Jesus all day long. If that's what brings them comfort at night, then more power to them. But, I should be given the same respect tho.

Jill298's photo
Fri 02/27/09 10:10 PM
I do at least know plenty about Christianity. I lived it for many years. Actually even several denominations. Maybe you should be more open minded to learn things from other cultures, religions, before you go around calling them false. In the end, all of them could be false. Maybe we're really just making things far more complicated than it really is laugh

Adamal29's photo
Fri 02/27/09 10:13 PM

Adam, how is it that you claim you would never bash someone else's religion but you have no problem calling someone else's religion "false"??
I know you did not intend to offend me. And you didn't. I know you are just following your Christian ways, and that is to call my way "false" but just so you know... that is also a way of bashing someone else's religion.
I'm not flat out calling christianity "false". It just didn't work for me. It makes not one single tiny bit of sense to me. However, it works for some people. And if they don't cause harm to others, then let them praise Jesus all day long. If that's what brings them comfort at night, then more power to them. But, I should be given the same respect tho.
I am more going off a previous thread that I think got pulled, where someone made a comment on the writers of the bible being idiots. To me there is a difference in saying that, than claiming something to be false. It is more in the way something is said, than what is actually trying to be implied. Either way, I dont get super bent out of shape over it, I just see how some people could.

Jill298's photo
Fri 02/27/09 10:19 PM


Adam, how is it that you claim you would never bash someone else's religion but you have no problem calling someone else's religion "false"??
I know you did not intend to offend me. And you didn't. I know you are just following your Christian ways, and that is to call my way "false" but just so you know... that is also a way of bashing someone else's religion.
I'm not flat out calling christianity "false". It just didn't work for me. It makes not one single tiny bit of sense to me. However, it works for some people. And if they don't cause harm to others, then let them praise Jesus all day long. If that's what brings them comfort at night, then more power to them. But, I should be given the same respect tho.
I am more going off a previous thread that I think got pulled, where someone made a comment on the writers of the bible being idiots. To me there is a difference in saying that, than claiming something to be false. It is more in the way something is said, than what is actually trying to be implied. Either way, I dont get super bent out of shape over it, I just see how some people could.
I do not recall ever calling them idiots. I'm not sure even what thread you're referring to.
however, if you call other religions than yours false, then that is claiming only yours is correct. That is not giving anyone else respect for their own religions that can be just as whole heartedly involved in their religion as you are in yours. I think it's unfair to call others false. no matter what religion you are. I can only tell you what didn't work for me. I can't tell you what is right or wrong for you. But I would be happy to answer any questions you may have. I'm not a bad person you know. I'm just different than you. different shouldn't equal wrong.

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