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Topic: Obama moved by homeless woman's story at town hall
willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:16 PM





I have one issue.

How does a homeless woman travel to the conference (from my understanding, it's not where she lived though I may be wrong) and then manage to get a ticket in and on top of that, sit in the front row to ask a question?

well two issues: I've heard nothing more about her other than her hardship. When Joe the Plumber came up, we knew everything about him in 48 hours and it was all over the media. Where is the investigation here?

It wasn't for the womans sake.
It was for his glory.
Trying to show his followers he is their savior-in-chief.


Not true at all, he is being an example of what Americans should be.

There are people all over this country that go out of their way to help those less fortunate and they don't require the attention your savior does.
The deed that you don't tell anyone about is the one that counts, in Gods eyes.


Just because the woman asked him in a public forum does not imply he is an attention whore at any level. Everything Obama does from now all will be televised and reported. So basically what you are saying is that he should be private and secretive, like Bush, which will bring him more problems.

No Obama is going to pay attention to those who address him and he will try to do the best he can do. Just like he told her, he will not be able to do anything right away but he understands and will keep her plight and hundreds of thousands others at heart.

This is not even a valid complaint, really, just think about it.

I see he's already looking out for the interests of the already rich and famous.
Us po' folks is just gonna' get poorer.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:21 PM






I have one issue.

How does a homeless woman travel to the conference (from my understanding, it's not where she lived though I may be wrong) and then manage to get a ticket in and on top of that, sit in the front row to ask a question?

well two issues: I've heard nothing more about her other than her hardship. When Joe the Plumber came up, we knew everything about him in 48 hours and it was all over the media. Where is the investigation here?

It wasn't for the womans sake.
It was for his glory.
Trying to show his followers he is their savior-in-chief.


Not true at all, he is being an example of what Americans should be.

There are people all over this country that go out of their way to help those less fortunate and they don't require the attention your savior does.
The deed that you don't tell anyone about is the one that counts, in Gods eyes.


Just because the woman asked him in a public forum does not imply he is an attention whore at any level. Everything Obama does from now all will be televised and reported. So basically what you are saying is that he should be private and secretive, like Bush, which will bring him more problems.

No Obama is going to pay attention to those who address him and he will try to do the best he can do. Just like he told her, he will not be able to do anything right away but he understands and will keep her plight and hundreds of thousands others at heart.

This is not even a valid complaint, really, just think about it.

I see he's already looking out for the interests of the already rich and famous.
Us po' folks is just gonna' get poorer.


Your confusing Bush with Obama, right? Bush is the one who put the average citizens rights and needs on the back burner for the elite in this country.

willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:28 PM







I have one issue.

How does a homeless woman travel to the conference (from my understanding, it's not where she lived though I may be wrong) and then manage to get a ticket in and on top of that, sit in the front row to ask a question?

well two issues: I've heard nothing more about her other than her hardship. When Joe the Plumber came up, we knew everything about him in 48 hours and it was all over the media. Where is the investigation here?

It wasn't for the womans sake.
It was for his glory.
Trying to show his followers he is their savior-in-chief.


Not true at all, he is being an example of what Americans should be.

There are people all over this country that go out of their way to help those less fortunate and they don't require the attention your savior does.
The deed that you don't tell anyone about is the one that counts, in Gods eyes.


Just because the woman asked him in a public forum does not imply he is an attention whore at any level. Everything Obama does from now all will be televised and reported. So basically what you are saying is that he should be private and secretive, like Bush, which will bring him more problems.

No Obama is going to pay attention to those who address him and he will try to do the best he can do. Just like he told her, he will not be able to do anything right away but he understands and will keep her plight and hundreds of thousands others at heart.

This is not even a valid complaint, really, just think about it.

I see he's already looking out for the interests of the already rich and famous.
Us po' folks is just gonna' get poorer.


Your confusing Bush with Obama, right? Bush is the one who put the average citizens rights and needs on the back burner for the elite in this country.

All I see is him picking up where Bush left off. Continuing the progression towards, who knows where.
I suppose, if you don't pay taxes, you don't have to concern yourself as to who's pockets all these obama trillions are going to come from.
Followers really baffle me. what

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:32 PM








I have one issue.

How does a homeless woman travel to the conference (from my understanding, it's not where she lived though I may be wrong) and then manage to get a ticket in and on top of that, sit in the front row to ask a question?

well two issues: I've heard nothing more about her other than her hardship. When Joe the Plumber came up, we knew everything about him in 48 hours and it was all over the media. Where is the investigation here?

It wasn't for the womans sake.
It was for his glory.
Trying to show his followers he is their savior-in-chief.


Not true at all, he is being an example of what Americans should be.

There are people all over this country that go out of their way to help those less fortunate and they don't require the attention your savior does.
The deed that you don't tell anyone about is the one that counts, in Gods eyes.


Just because the woman asked him in a public forum does not imply he is an attention whore at any level. Everything Obama does from now all will be televised and reported. So basically what you are saying is that he should be private and secretive, like Bush, which will bring him more problems.

No Obama is going to pay attention to those who address him and he will try to do the best he can do. Just like he told her, he will not be able to do anything right away but he understands and will keep her plight and hundreds of thousands others at heart.

This is not even a valid complaint, really, just think about it.

I see he's already looking out for the interests of the already rich and famous.
Us po' folks is just gonna' get poorer.


Your confusing Bush with Obama, right? Bush is the one who put the average citizens rights and needs on the back burner for the elite in this country.

All I see is him picking up where Bush left off. Continuing the progression towards, who knows where.
I suppose, if you don't pay taxes, you don't have to concern yourself as to who's pockets all these obama trillions are going to come from.
Followers really baffle me. what


I am no follower, I am a leader, an idividual with individual ideals. I am not a liberal nor a conservative. I belong to no political society, I am Unaffiliated.

But I can see a man who has this countries best interest at heart and Obama is one. Bush on the other hand had his own interest at heart and we all paid for it, some more than others, with the lives of their brothers, sisters, sons, grans, cousins, uncles, aunts, great grans, etc...

willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:37 PM

I have one issue.

How does a homeless woman travel to the conference (from my understanding, it's not where she lived though I may be wrong) and then manage to get a ticket in and on top of that, sit in the front row to ask a question?

well two issues: I've heard nothing more about her other than her hardship. When Joe the Plumber came up, we knew everything about him in 48 hours and it was all over the media. Where is the investigation here?

One scenario,,
A plant, her.
Staged act, Obama.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 08:39 PM


I have one issue.

How does a homeless woman travel to the conference (from my understanding, it's not where she lived though I may be wrong) and then manage to get a ticket in and on top of that, sit in the front row to ask a question?

well two issues: I've heard nothing more about her other than her hardship. When Joe the Plumber came up, we knew everything about him in 48 hours and it was all over the media. Where is the investigation here?

One scenario,,
A plant, her.
Staged act, Obama.


If she was a plant so was Joe and the one black guy in the rally for McCain.

She wasn't a plant. The woman really wants help and she asked.

willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 09:00 PM
Edited by willing2 on Thu 02/12/09 09:04 PM
Here's an interesting article on Ms. Hughes
I don't have the area code for Ft Meyers but, You could call Ms Johnson and ask her if this is true.

Henrietta Hughes: Just a "plain old system worker"?

Via commenter RC, it's sure as hell starting to look like it:

... as WINK News digs deeper into Henrietta Hughes past, details show she may not be telling the truth when it comes to her being homeless.

Hughes told President Obama on Tuesday she's been living in a car and she can't get any help. But WINK News found an agency who says they offered Hughes an apartment not even three weeks ago.

"She lives out of a two seater truck because she desires to. That’s what she choose to do," said Tanya Johnson, Director of We Care Ministries in Fort Myers.

Tanya says she's offered Henrietta Hughes help several times in recent months.

"We have extended a lot of her services to her," said Johnson.

According to Johnson, since December the organization has offered Hughes and her son a place to live... twice. The last time was the weekend of January 20th.

Tanya says the organization also gave Henrietta groceries, clothes and money.

So, on Tuesday when Henrietta told President Obama there's no help for her and she has no place to go, Tanya Johnson got angry.

Open daily after 3:00 p.m.. Contact: Tonya Johnson ... We Care Outreach Ministries/Eternal Home. I took out the phone number in case I could get in trouble.
Here is the link to contact Ms Johnson
http://dhs.lee-county.com/DHS/EndHomelessness/Homeless_Coalition_Booklet.pdf


Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 09:22 PM

Here's an interesting article on Ms. Hughes
I don't have the area code for Ft Meyers but, You could call Ms Johnson and ask her if this is true.

Henrietta Hughes: Just a "plain old system worker"?

Via commenter RC, it's sure as hell starting to look like it:

... as WINK News digs deeper into Henrietta Hughes past, details show she may not be telling the truth when it comes to her being homeless.

Hughes told President Obama on Tuesday she's been living in a car and she can't get any help. But WINK News found an agency who says they offered Hughes an apartment not even three weeks ago.

"She lives out of a two seater truck because she desires to. That’s what she choose to do," said Tanya Johnson, Director of We Care Ministries in Fort Myers.

Tanya says she's offered Henrietta Hughes help several times in recent months.

"We have extended a lot of her services to her," said Johnson.

According to Johnson, since December the organization has offered Hughes and her son a place to live... twice. The last time was the weekend of January 20th.

Tanya says the organization also gave Henrietta groceries, clothes and money.

So, on Tuesday when Henrietta told President Obama there's no help for her and she has no place to go, Tanya Johnson got angry.

Open daily after 3:00 p.m.. Contact: Tonya Johnson ... We Care Outreach Ministries/Eternal Home. I took out the phone number in case I could get in trouble.
Here is the link to contact Ms Johnson
http://dhs.lee-county.com/DHS/EndHomelessness/Homeless_Coalition_Booklet.pdf




Is this site legitimate for starters? Unaffiliated with any political group? Second, just because some states they offered help does not mean it was valid help for the individual. Maybe the housing was not livable. Some poor housing is just awful with mice and bugs. Better to live in your car in some cases.

How can anyone say if they are not in the shoes of the person?

So this is not necessarily valid either.

I guess one based on their own bias' will be looking for validatation of their hatefilled agenda. But it still does not make it valid.

Until I walk in her shoes I can make no judgement on her and neither should any other human being.

willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 09:28 PM
I would imagine it's legit. All kinds of hits on the search.
[PDF]Lee county Pocket Guide To Emergency a...

We Care Outreach. 693-7911 – Contact Tanya Johnson. 4231 Desoto Avenue, Fort Myers 33905. 34. Florida Division of Blind Services .... Good Shepherd Ministries. Lions’ Park – next to Lee Memorial Hospital. Serve Hot Meal Friday night 6:00 – 8:30 p.m. .... Free dental care. 3920 Michigan Avenue – Fort Myers 33916 ...

www.leehomeless.org/Downloads/Pocket%20Guide.p..

davidben1's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:05 PM
anything that follow an idea or definition of good is easily decieved???

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:11 PM

I would imagine it's legit. All kinds of hits on the search.
[PDF]Lee county Pocket Guide To Emergency a...

We Care Outreach. 693-7911 – Contact Tanya Johnson. 4231 Desoto Avenue, Fort Myers 33905. 34. Florida Division of Blind Services .... Good Shepherd Ministries. Lions’ Park – next to Lee Memorial Hospital. Serve Hot Meal Friday night 6:00 – 8:30 p.m. .... Free dental care. 3920 Michigan Avenue – Fort Myers 33916 ...

www.leehomeless.org/Downloads/Pocket%20Guide.p..


Just because there is an address does not clear the motive behind the so called information either. I asked did the interview copied and pasted by you get printed by an unaffiliated site?

davidben1's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:11 PM
to believe good words are the salt of the earth is to get salt rubbed in the eye's.....

davidben1's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:13 PM
to not judge is to subvert truth and reality for illusions......

willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:19 PM


I would imagine it's legit. All kinds of hits on the search.
[PDF]Lee county Pocket Guide To Emergency a...

We Care Outreach. 693-7911 – Contact Tanya Johnson. 4231 Desoto Avenue, Fort Myers 33905. 34. Florida Division of Blind Services .... Good Shepherd Ministries. Lions’ Park – next to Lee Memorial Hospital. Serve Hot Meal Friday night 6:00 – 8:30 p.m. .... Free dental care. 3920 Michigan Avenue – Fort Myers 33916 ...

www.leehomeless.org/Downloads/Pocket%20Guide.p..


Just because there is an address does not clear the motive behind the so called information either. I asked did the interview copied and pasted by you get printed by an unaffiliated site?

Ask Ms Johnson if she was quoted right.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:24 PM



I would imagine it's legit. All kinds of hits on the search.
[PDF]Lee county Pocket Guide To Emergency a...

We Care Outreach. 693-7911 – Contact Tanya Johnson. 4231 Desoto Avenue, Fort Myers 33905. 34. Florida Division of Blind Services .... Good Shepherd Ministries. Lions’ Park – next to Lee Memorial Hospital. Serve Hot Meal Friday night 6:00 – 8:30 p.m. .... Free dental care. 3920 Michigan Avenue – Fort Myers 33916 ...

www.leehomeless.org/Downloads/Pocket%20Guide.p..


Just because there is an address does not clear the motive behind the so called information either. I asked did the interview copied and pasted by you get printed by an unaffiliated site?

Ask Ms Johnson if she was quoted right.


If Ms Johnson said that she should be fired from her job. No one working in the human services field should feel that way and still work there.

willing2's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:27 PM




I would imagine it's legit. All kinds of hits on the search.
[PDF]Lee county Pocket Guide To Emergency a...

We Care Outreach. 693-7911 – Contact Tanya Johnson. 4231 Desoto Avenue, Fort Myers 33905. 34. Florida Division of Blind Services .... Good Shepherd Ministries. Lions’ Park – next to Lee Memorial Hospital. Serve Hot Meal Friday night 6:00 – 8:30 p.m. .... Free dental care. 3920 Michigan Avenue – Fort Myers 33916 ...

www.leehomeless.org/Downloads/Pocket%20Guide.p..


Just because there is an address does not clear the motive behind the so called information either. I asked did the interview copied and pasted by you get printed by an unaffiliated site?

Ask Ms Johnson if she was quoted right.


If Ms Johnson said that she should be fired from her job. No one working in the human services field should feel that way and still work there.

If you didn't read it, she is the director. She got angry that the woman lied about no help being offered to her.

davidben1's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:28 PM
nothing is true reality until it be proven???

to not doubt is to be led as a lamb to a slaughter???

all great leaders LOVE TO BE QUESTIONED!!!

Dragoness's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:30 PM





I would imagine it's legit. All kinds of hits on the search.
[PDF]Lee county Pocket Guide To Emergency a...

We Care Outreach. 693-7911 – Contact Tanya Johnson. 4231 Desoto Avenue, Fort Myers 33905. 34. Florida Division of Blind Services .... Good Shepherd Ministries. Lions’ Park – next to Lee Memorial Hospital. Serve Hot Meal Friday night 6:00 – 8:30 p.m. .... Free dental care. 3920 Michigan Avenue – Fort Myers 33916 ...

www.leehomeless.org/Downloads/Pocket%20Guide.p..


Just because there is an address does not clear the motive behind the so called information either. I asked did the interview copied and pasted by you get printed by an unaffiliated site?

Ask Ms Johnson if she was quoted right.


If Ms Johnson said that she should be fired from her job. No one working in the human services field should feel that way and still work there.

If you didn't read it, she is the director. She got angry that the woman lied about no help being offered to her.


She should lose her job. I believe I will make some letters and calls tomorrow to complain above her head. I used to work in the human services field and this kind of thing is not conducive to working in this field. I will work on it.

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Thu 02/12/09 10:39 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Thu 02/12/09 10:52 PM
THE ONLY TRUE HATE IS TELLING OTHER'S WHAT THEY SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT DO???

ANY TRUE INDIVIDUAL WELCOMES OTHER'S DOUBT OF ITSELF???

CRIMES ARE PERPETRATED WHILE THE DO GOODER SEEKS TO BE NICE AND NOT JUDGE???

NOTHING CARES TO BE JUDGED IF IT IS PURE???

THE ONLY THINGS IN LIFE THAT HATE TO JUDGE ARE THOSE WHOM DO NOT WISH TO BE JUDGED???




davidben1's photo
Thu 02/12/09 10:59 PM

Racism, bigotry, cynicism and heartless judging of others are sicknesses of the soul.

When one doesn't keep those ravaging sentiments in check, there comes a time when one looses all touch with one's own humanity.

When that happens to a country, it implodes!!!




voil.....

i am deeply surprised to hear such from you???

the only imploding of anything is when anything is allowed to be built as a house of cards, WITHOUT SCRUTINY, and so indeed implode inward upon itself!!!

you are my elder???

you are to be smarter than i???

these things you say even i an idiot can see are not good logic, but only ideas of good!!!

nothing that has nothing to hide does not WELCOME ALL SCRUTINY AND JUDGEMENT OF IT'S PEERS!!!


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