Topic: embryotic chart
deke's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:02 AM
in 1869 earnest haekel THOUGHT UP the biogenetic law.

he called it ontongeny recapitulates phylonogy
(simplified) the embryo reanacts the evolutionary sequence
this chart is in every science book in our schools

the embryo has gill slits whinch they thought it was remembering the evolutionary process

darwin thought this was the best evidence for evolution.

in 1875 haekel's own univesity found him guilty of FRAUD. he addmitted he lied and the chart was a fraud just to support the evolutionary beleif.

it has been found to be false for over 130 yrs,yet this is still taught as proof of evolution to our kids.

Winx's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:12 AM
Show me where it's taught to kids. And if it is, is it taught as a theory?

deke's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:15 AM

Show me where it's taught to kids. And if it is, is it taught as a theory?
open your childs science book and look for yourself.it's the chart with the development of embryo's on it.
this is still taught as a fact and proof of evolution,read some of what it say's and judge for yourself

Winx's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:16 AM


Show me where it's taught to kids. And if it is, is it taught as a theory?
open your childs science book and look for yourself.it's the chart with the development of embryo's on it.
this is still taught as a fact and proof of evolution,read some of what it say's and judge for yourself


That's why I asked. It's not in my child's science book.
The only reference to evolution that is discussed is about Neanderthals.

AndyBgood's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:17 AM
That really depends on the school. I remember this being brought up and it was also taught as being disproved.

There is a medical reason fetuses have gills very early on. It is purely for Oxygen transfer in the womb since the FETUS must complete all of the umbilical connections to the mother first. Otherwise it would die from lack of oxygen considering it is growing in an organic tank of fluid.
It is not evolutionary memory, it is purely genetic.


Later on as in more recent times there has been found that our genetic code does have a memory and that the code for an earthworm has been found in our genetics. Thank you Human Genome Project!

Now for as sci fi as the idea sounds if it were possible to regress an organism back along its genetic and evolutionary pathway we would eventually regress to the point of being a worm since they were the first real life on the planet after smaller multicellular animals appeared. You cannot regress a human to get birds or lizards. We did not evolve from their line. What we may find is that when we regress a human we may wind up being nothing more than one of the shrew like proto mammals of millions of years ago.

Granted Deevolution is more than likely a myth and will never become scientific fact BUT decoding the Genome is unlocking facts about us that are pretty damn shocking at times.

Back in the 1800 science didn't operate by the rules it does now. At least Darwin was very careful about what he published and he did follow very empirical study behaviors.
Heck, in the 1700 the space surrounding our planet was supposed to be filled with "ether." Another theory of the time was that the earth was in a sea of "Phlogiston" which was an OLD idea from early Greece resurrected but a scientist in the late 1700s who went down in disgrace and humiliation. Back then they did not have the tools of study we have these days but does it stop plagiarism and intellectual shell games?
Hell NO.
Al Gore invented the internet!

TBRich's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:18 AM
It really isn't taught anymore in science besides being a footnote.

Winx's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:19 AM
Yes, that's what I learned in Anatomy and Physiology class in college - the gills are for oxygen transfer in the womb.


deke's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:20 AM



Show me where it's taught to kids. And if it is, is it taught as a theory?
open your childs science book and look for yourself.it's the chart with the development of embryo's on it.
this is still taught as a fact and proof of evolution,read some of what it say's and judge for yourself


That's why I asked. It's not in my child's science book.
The only reference to evolution that is discussed is about Neanderthals.
highschool science books
read ICONS OF EVOLUTION and it will make think about what we learned about cavemen

Winx's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:21 AM
Edited by Winx on Thu 02/05/09 09:22 AM




Show me where it's taught to kids. And if it is, is it taught as a theory?
open your childs science book and look for yourself.it's the chart with the development of embryo's on it.
this is still taught as a fact and proof of evolution,read some of what it say's and judge for yourself


That's why I asked. It's not in my child's science book.
The only reference to evolution that is discussed is about Neanderthals.
highschool science books
read ICONS OF EVOLUTION and it will make think about what we learned about cavemen



The gills being part of evolution weren't in my college science books.




deke's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:23 AM
actually these slits develope into glands in the throat and bones in the ears

Winx's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:24 AM

actually these slits develope into glands in the throat and bones in the ears


Fascinating, isn't it?

deke's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:26 AM


actually these slits develope into glands in the throat and bones in the ears


Fascinating, isn't it?

actually i think it's pretty sad kids have to learn this lie
but i do find science fascinating

Winx's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:27 AM



actually these slits develope into glands in the throat and bones in the ears


Fascinating, isn't it?

actually i think it's pretty sad kids have to learn this lie
but i do find science fascinating



Which gets me back to this question. If it's being taught (and I don't know if it is), is it being taught as a theory?
It makes a big difference.

deke's photo
Thu 02/05/09 09:33 AM




actually these slits develope into glands in the throat and bones in the ears


Fascinating, isn't it?

actually i think it's pretty sad kids have to learn this lie
but i do find science fascinating



Which gets me back to this question. If it's being taught (and I don't know if it is), is it being taught as a theory?
It makes a big difference.

it's taught as a fact and futher proof of evolution