Topic: Stimulas package is a sham.
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Wed 02/04/09 07:53 PM


Regarding the bill that was signed for extending kid's health insurance: Passed with a vote of 290-135. Forty Republicans joined in approval.


Liberals I'm sure...it was the wrong bill to sign...we owe illegals NOTHING !!


Wow. They are children.

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Wed 02/04/09 07:54 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 02/04/09 07:59 PM


Regarding the bill that was signed for extending kid's health insurance: Passed with a vote of 290-135. Forty Republicans joined in approval.


Liberals I'm sure...it was the wrong bill to sign...we owe illegals NOTHING !!


They're children!!!!!!!!!!!

They didn't choose to be here!



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Wed 02/04/09 07:56 PM


Read the following article and ask yourself ..Just where does this type of spending creat jobs or helps?Last week, the House passed the then-$819 billion stimulus bill — without a single Republican vote. GOP senators vowed to oppose it as well, calling it a colossal waste of money, packed with pork and non-essential spending.

NBC broke down some of the bigger numbers in the bill, for example: $275 billion in tax relief, $90 billion for infrastructure, $79 billion for school funding, etc. Sounds good, right? But in the fine print, there's a lot of proposed spending that may raise a few eyebrows. In an interview with President Barack Obama, CBS' Katie Couric called him on some of the more unusual proposals:

- $6.2 billion for home weatherization

- $50 million for port modernization and water and wastewater infrastructure needs in Guam

-$100 million for children to learn green construction

Obama defended the weatherization spending by emphasizing the long-term effects:


"We're going to weatherize homes, that immediately puts people back to work and we're going to train people who are out of work, including young people, to do the weatherization. As a consequence of weatherization, our energy bills go down and we reduce our dependence on foreign oil. What would be a more effective stimulus package than that?"

Fair enough. But what about the $800 million for Amtrak? Or the $150 million for the Smithsonian Institute? And there's more: So much more, in fact, that the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, has set up a website that allows users to comb through the more than 900-page-long bill. You decide: Economic stimulus or wasteful spending?

- $198 million for U.S. military benefits for Filipinos who fought for the U.S. during WWII

- $75 million for "smoking cessation activities"

- $87 million for the "design of a new polar icebreaker"

- $335 million for HIV/STD screening

- $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees

All projects worthy of money, to be sure, but are they worthy of being part of an economic stimulus plan that's now expected to cost U.S. taxpayers $900 billion?

However, both sides have signaled a willingness to concede. In an interview with CNN, Obama said he would consider cutting items that "may not really stimulate the economy right now." And in the spirit of bipartisanship, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Nebraska) and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) are working together to compile a list of recommended cuts, with a goal of reducing the bill by $200 billion.

But as the economy continues to shrink and layoffs pile up by the tens of thousands, the nation may not have the patience for cross-party squabbling and finger-pointing. At the White House today, Obama summed it up:


No plan is perfect, and we should work to make it stronger ... Let's not make the perfect the enemy of the essential. Let's show people all over our country who are looking for leadership in this difficult time that we are equal to the task."




This happens with every bill they propose in congress, people try to piggyback onto the bill every special interest that they have.

The truth of the matter is we need the stimulus and quick if we are going to stave off a depression here in this country. Hopefully they will trim the fat and put it through soon.


I like your other picture better...the black and white...gulp !!...:smile:

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Wed 02/04/09 07:57 PM

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Wed 02/04/09 07:58 PM



Regarding the bill that was signed for extending kid's health insurance: Passed with a vote of 290-135. Forty Republicans joined in approval.


Liberals I'm sure...it was the wrong bill to sign...we owe illegals NOTHING !!


They're children!!!!!!!!!!!

They didn't chose to be here!





I see Obama caught on fast...he learned fron Clinton well...if you frame an argument with " children "...and..." crisis "...it works every time...I mean afterall...who can turn away the children...right ?....

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Wed 02/04/09 08:00 PM




Regarding the bill that was signed for extending kid's health insurance: Passed with a vote of 290-135. Forty Republicans joined in approval.


Liberals I'm sure...it was the wrong bill to sign...we owe illegals NOTHING !!


They're children!!!!!!!!!!!

They didn't choose to be here!





I see Obama caught on fast...he learned fron Clinton well...if you frame an argument with " children "...and..." crisis "...it works every time...I mean afterall...who can turn away the children...right ?....


Now, you've got it! We have to take care of the children.

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Wed 02/04/09 08:00 PM




Regarding the bill that was signed for extending kid's health insurance: Passed with a vote of 290-135. Forty Republicans joined in approval.


Liberals I'm sure...it was the wrong bill to sign...we owe illegals NOTHING !!


They're children!!!!!!!!!!!

They didn't chose to be here!





I see Obama caught on fast...he learned fron Clinton well...if you frame an argument with " children "...and..." crisis "...it works every time...I mean afterall...who can turn away the children...right ?....


That's what you want, right? For them to turn away the kids who get sick?

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Wed 02/04/09 08:02 PM





Regarding the bill that was signed for extending kid's health insurance: Passed with a vote of 290-135. Forty Republicans joined in approval.


Liberals I'm sure...it was the wrong bill to sign...we owe illegals NOTHING !!


They're children!!!!!!!!!!!

They didn't chose to be here!





I see Obama caught on fast...he learned fron Clinton well...if you frame an argument with " children "...and..." crisis "...it works every time...I mean afterall...who can turn away the children...right ?....


That's what you want, right? For them to turn away the kids who get sick?


thats what MOST Americans want...

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Wed 02/04/09 08:04 PM
Edited by singmesweet on Wed 02/04/09 08:05 PM






Regarding the bill that was signed for extending kid's health insurance: Passed with a vote of 290-135. Forty Republicans joined in approval.


Liberals I'm sure...it was the wrong bill to sign...we owe illegals NOTHING !!


They're children!!!!!!!!!!!

They didn't chose to be here!





I see Obama caught on fast...he learned fron Clinton well...if you frame an argument with " children "...and..." crisis "...it works every time...I mean afterall...who can turn away the children...right ?....


That's what you want, right? For them to turn away the kids who get sick?


thats what MOST Americans want...


That wasn't what I was asking. I asked what you wanted. I want to hear you speak for yourself, not others.

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Wed 02/04/09 08:05 PM




Regarding the bill that was signed for extending kid's health insurance: Passed with a vote of 290-135. Forty Republicans joined in approval.


Liberals I'm sure...it was the wrong bill to sign...we owe illegals NOTHING !!


They're children!!!!!!!!!!!

They didn't chose to be here!





I see Obama caught on fast...he learned fron Clinton well...if you frame an argument with " children "...and..." crisis "...it works every time...I mean afterall...who can turn away the children...right ?....


Actually I think Bush topped any other president in utilizing a crisis to launch illegal activity. Using 9/11 to attack Iraq when bin laden had never been there, never would be and had nothing to do with Iraq.

Bush beats out Clinton for the wrongs done to this country and other countries.

Winx's photo
Wed 02/04/09 08:05 PM
I think it's absolutely awful that are about 8 million to 9 million uninsured children in the United States.

Four million people have lost their employer based insurance in the past year.


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Wed 02/04/09 08:15 PM

everybody thinks obama is going to be so great
this just goes to show how dumb and how eager his followers are to make the rich richer and poor poorer.

we are gonna have to pay for this load of crap!!


No need to worry Deke, Bush already did that the last 8 years, making the rich richer and the poor poorer.. Guess his followers were so much smarter.. NOT

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Wed 02/04/09 08:23 PM


everybody thinks obama is going to be so great
this just goes to show how dumb and how eager his followers are to make the rich richer and poor poorer.

we are gonna have to pay for this load of crap!!


No need to worry Deke, Bush already did that the last 8 years, making the rich richer and the poor poorer.. Guess his followers were so much smarter.. NOT

seemed to be smart enough for two terms
i wasn't the the only one that voted for him.
after 9/11 he had the highest rating in history


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Wed 02/04/09 08:25 PM
Edited by boo2u on Wed 02/04/09 08:25 PM
Funny, the very same a$$holes that don't want services provided to illegals are pitching a fit because they have no one to rent to for 100 dollars a head, now that they went back to Mexico.. laughing my ass off at the lilly white landlords up here that love telling you how american they are and how christian they are. Now they are whining that their businesses are failing...

Winx's photo
Wed 02/04/09 08:25 PM



everybody thinks obama is going to be so great
this just goes to show how dumb and how eager his followers are to make the rich richer and poor poorer.

we are gonna have to pay for this load of crap!!


No need to worry Deke, Bush already did that the last 8 years, making the rich richer and the poor poorer.. Guess his followers were so much smarter.. NOT

seemed to be smart enough for two terms
i wasn't the the only one that voted for him.
after 9/11 he had the highest rating in history




And then what happened to his approval rating?

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Wed 02/04/09 08:28 PM
The article was on Yahoo's home page... and if you read it ..it did state that this is only a small piece of whats proposed. The bill is 900 pages long. being retired with time on my hands I plan to look it over The point I thought was... Ithought there were not to be "earmarks" or special requests for funding.. no matter what happens no matter if you voted for Obama or not he is in the "powre chair" now and its either support him or wait 4 more years.. we had enough of Disneyland running the country.. "goofy" was in charge.

Winx's photo
Wed 02/04/09 08:29 PM
900 pages?!shocked

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Wed 02/04/09 08:31 PM



everybody thinks obama is going to be so great
this just goes to show how dumb and how eager his followers are to make the rich richer and poor poorer.

we are gonna have to pay for this load of crap!!


No need to worry Deke, Bush already did that the last 8 years, making the rich richer and the poor poorer.. Guess his followers were so much smarter.. NOT

seemed to be smart enough for two terms
i wasn't the the only one that voted for him.
after 9/11 he had the highest rating in history




Interesting side-note. Bush achieved both the highest and lowest approval rating in history.

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Wed 02/04/09 08:41 PM

Interesting side-note. Bush achieved both the highest and lowest approval rating in history.


Amazing isn't it....

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Wed 02/04/09 08:51 PM

Read the following article and ask yourself ..Just where does this type of spending creat jobs or helps?Last week, the House passed the then-$819 billion stimulus bill — without a single Republican vote. GOP senators vowed to oppose it as well, calling it a colossal waste of money, packed with pork and non-essential spending.

NBC broke down some of the bigger numbers in the bill, for example: $275 billion in tax relief, $90 billion for infrastructure, $79 billion for school funding, etc. Sounds good, right? But in the fine print, there's a lot of proposed spending that may raise a few eyebrows. In an interview with President Barack Obama, CBS' Katie Couric called him on some of the more unusual proposals:

- $6.2 billion for home weatherization

- $50 million for port modernization and water and wastewater infrastructure needs in Guam

-$100 million for children to learn green construction

Obama defended the weatherization spending by emphasizing the long-term effects:


"We're going to weatherize homes, that immediately puts people back to work and we're going to train people who are out of work, including young people, to do the weatherization. As a consequence of weatherization, our energy bills go down and we reduce our dependence on foreign oil. What would be a more effective stimulus package than that?"

Fair enough. But what about the $800 million for Amtrak? Or the $150 million for the Smithsonian Institute? And there's more: So much more, in fact, that the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, has set up a website that allows users to comb through the more than 900-page-long bill. You decide: Economic stimulus or wasteful spending?

- $198 million for U.S. military benefits for Filipinos who fought for the U.S. during WWII

- $75 million for "smoking cessation activities"

- $87 million for the "design of a new polar icebreaker"

- $335 million for HIV/STD screening

- $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees

All projects worthy of money, to be sure, but are they worthy of being part of an economic stimulus plan that's now expected to cost U.S. taxpayers $900 billion?

However, both sides have signaled a willingness to concede. In an interview with CNN, Obama said he would consider cutting items that "may not really stimulate the economy right now." And in the spirit of bipartisanship, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Nebraska) and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) are working together to compile a list of recommended cuts, with a goal of reducing the bill by $200 billion.

But as the economy continues to shrink and layoffs pile up by the tens of thousands, the nation may not have the patience for cross-party squabbling and finger-pointing. At the White House today, Obama summed it up:


No plan is perfect, and we should work to make it stronger ... Let's not make the perfect the enemy of the essential. Let's show people all over our country who are looking for leadership in this difficult time that we are equal to the task."




Add up the funding from your Republican blogger site.
Then stand back and look at it.
OK tell me what figures you see. Then I'll talk to you about it.