If he had said, "won't ever happen because the Bill of rights protects religious freedoms", we're not having this conversation. but this respondent's notion of the future is an America where Religious freedoms are restricted by the state.

all it will take is enough people who think that way to get into high office or on the courts, and it;ll happen so fast your head will spin..

the fear is that it already happened. and we've got at least four years to stand against that way of thinking.

where will you stand when peoples of faith are driven underground to worship? standing by, feeding them to lions with those that drove them there?

if you don't want the president to have a minister speak at his innaguration, take your complaint to him...

I have to say maybe you could learn something by being forced underground like you've done to others for centuries. Though I wouldn't wish that on my christian friends that don't force their beliefs on me.

Knowing the Conservative Right, they will spend the next 4 years trying to figure how how to get back their power while not changing their attitudes one bit, doing what they have always done.

Theres nothing dishonest or on the mark about what I said. Banning religion just might be good for the whole world for a time. Notice I said I didn't expect it. Figures you'd get all paranoid about it.

You insist that this interpretation upon which you lean so heavily is written in stone. What no of us knows is what case may come down the pike next that overturns the rulings upon which that interpretation is based. That's kind of the beauty of the system. Cases come and go and no scotus rulings are written that cannot be overturned.

If this were the 18th century and "sinners in the hands of an angry God" was being preached from the pulpit or if we were in the middle of the spanish inquisition, or if King James was establishing the church of england, you'd easily find me on your side of the arguement.. or did you miss that the first time I said it??

The state of things today is that people want to see Religion quashed in its entirety, the public arena scrubbed clean of any mention of the Spiritual. Men now seek to replace God with Science. the pendulum has swung far enough to the left on this matter. The second ammendment does not provide for people to be protected from religion.

Tell you what.. try having this conversation in Downtown Islamabad or Riyad and see how long you keep your head.. literally..

Dishonest or right on the mark??



Clearly dishonest!

And here is why I say that'raiderfan':

'Boo2u' states in he first two sentences of his post that a) that my post had nothing to do with banning religion (right on the mark), and b) the HE even doesn't expect that: 'banning religion'.

Then he speaks a personnal preference, and follows it with a comment confirming that it is but a fantasy of his. 'boo2u' very clearly expresses his thoughts and never confuses the state of constitutional affairs, and his personnal opinions and preferences.

You on the other hand, alter 'boo2u's statements and lend them a sinister intent to justify some kind of over the top reaction in the name of your faith.

It's not serious. It distracts from discussing this issue in a pragmatic and rational manner. And yes I believe it is possible to talk about this subject in a rational manner.




But the FIRST A. does exactly that. YOU know it. 'boo2u' knows it, and writes so, implicitely in the post you quoted, and very specifically writes that this is not about banning religion.



Way over the top. Borderline paranoïa.

In the same manner that a fanatical or delusional christian couldn't force the State to impose a christian prayer to all, in public schools,

... a fanatical or delusional atheist couldn't get the State to 'force the pious ones underground'!

Come on! Let's get real, and put the demagogical rhetoric aside.



Tolerance for the judeo-christian CULTURAL fabric makes it such that non-christians treat that event and many others as part of cultural, and not religious tradition.

Should force it down their throath as 'religious' preference, you will singlehandedly force a Constitutional challenge!!!

Been over that earlier. Seems you are trying to get blood out of a stone. You must have a real strong faith.



Right by your side!!!

I would not do it for the christian faith as you might, but I would unconditionnally stand for freedoms 'of' and 'from' religion as garanteed by the Constitution.

I would, as all US citizens, stand for the religion-neutral and freedom protection wisdom of the US Constitution.

If more people understood it, they would realize that the First Amendment is an inspired and brilliant piece of the Constition which can be credited for the religious-neutral success the US has enjoyed over the past 200+ years.

Let's not allow fanatical christians, or non-religious fanatics to confuse the brilliance of a Truly Free Citizen Nation, ... FREE 'of' and 'from' any and religions.