if cheney was advising the management of haliburton

then the us govt should charge haliburton for consulting fees

after all cheney works for the us govt if he advises a company

should not the us govt get payed for his time away from office

and then does that not bring up the point of dessertion of post

if done without permission possiple treason as well if funds lead to
countries on the terrorist watch list

a tangled web it weaves

just a thought

but hey what do i know

g-night yall...
East Coast............

Why do you keep saying I love Bush. I don't. And I consider your
statement an insult for which I deserve a public apology.

(CBS) The price of rebuilding Iraq is rising and two companies with
strong political ties are being paid even more money by the government
for their roles in Iraq's reconstruction than previously thought.

Halliburton Corp., the oil services firm once headed by Vice President
**** Cheney, has won contracts worth more than $1.7 billion from the
U.S. government for its work in Iraq, and it could make hundreds of
millions more from a no-bid contract it was awarded by the Army Corps of
Engineers, the Washington Post reports.

Meanwhile, engineering and construction giant Bechtel, whose executives
have included former Secretary of State George Shultz and ex-Defense
Secretary Caspar Weinberger, is also getting a big raise in its contract
in Iraq, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Halliburton is the biggest single government contractor in Iraq. The
Houston-based company, through its subsidiary Brown and Root, is
involved in a wide range of activities in Iraq, including building and
maintaining military bases, delivering mail, producing hot mails and
providing logistical support for U.S. intelligence officials searching
for weapons of mass destruction.

The Post reports Halliburton employees have become an integral part of
Army life in Iraq, often dressing in Army fatigues with civilian patches
on the shoulders.

California-based Bechtel is also getting a boost in its Iraq contracts.
The Wall Street Journal reports that escalating costs and continued
instability have prompted U.S. officials to increase the value of a deal
with Bechtel by $350 million, or more than 50 percent.

Bechtel was originally awarded an 18-month, $680 million contract for
reconstruction work on airports, water, power, schools, roads and
government buildings.

The new money for the engineering and construction firm is part of at
least $1 billion the U.S. hopes to pour into Iraqi power generation
alone over the next year.

The Journal says U.S. officials and Bechtel assessment teams now
estimate Iraqi reconstruction will cost at least $16 billion and likely
much more. L. Paul Bremer, the top U.S. civilian official in Iraq, has
said that the costs of rebuilding that nation and revitalizing its
economy could top $100 billion.

Both companies have taken advantage of a growing trend by the government
to use private contractors for military support operations overseas.

The Post reports that the practice of turning to private contractors for
a broad range of military logistics operations dates to a study
commissioned by then-Defense Secretary **** Cheney after the 1991
Persian Gulf War. The Pentagon chose Brown and Root to conduct the study
and then hired the company to implement its own plan.

Cheney became chief executive of Halliburton, Brown and Root's parent
company, in 1995 and remained there until 2000, when he left to run for
the vice presidency.

The government says it's had to turn more and more to the private sector
because of military budget cuts since the end of the Cold War that have
placed enormous strain on the armed forces – particularly after the
terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

But critics have charged that the Iraq war and occupation have provided
a handful of politically connected companies – especially Halliburton –
with unprecedented moneymaking opportunities.

"The amount of money [Halliburton has earned] is quite staggering, far
more than we were originally led to believe," said Rep. Henry Waxman,
D-Calif. "This is clearly a trend under this administration, and it
concerns me because often the privatization of government services ends
up costing the taxpayers more rather than less."

Waxman has been critical of Halliburton since an Army Corps of Engineers
report in March said the company had been given a no-bid contract, with
a $7 billion cap, for putting out oil fires in Iraq. The Corps explained
the absence of competitive bidding on the grounds that the operation was
part of a classified war plan and the Army did not have the time to wade
through numerous bids.

Waxman, the ranking Democrat on the House Government Reform Committee,
has asked the General Accounting Office to look into the decision to
give Halliburton the contract without bidding.

A Halliburton spokeswoman, Wendy Hall, would not discuss details of the
firm's operations in Iraq, but said suggestions of war profiteering were
"an affront to all hard-working, honorable Halliburton employees

*sigh*

Love your sources. But the information is hardly relevant. We've been
using (republicans and democrats alike) independent contractors forever.
And there's NEVER been a war that cost less than expected. This isn't
surprising, this isn't criminal, this is just the facts of life in the
modern military.

Just how old is the information.

I remember reading this stuff on the news more n a year ago.

How revelant is it to the here and now.

The issue is that Bin laden had a price on his head before 9/11 and bush
senior had connection to the Senior George Bush

senior bush had connection to the bin laden ffamily before and after
9/11 association with the enemy

Does having known the family of damer make someone guilty of his crimes.

As I remember the Bin Laden family had already sorta ostrasized O'sama
before 9/11. Sometime around the time he started assisting the Taliban.
Which was during the time the former Soviet Union was engaging
Afganistan.

give me half facts please I reckon I to stupid to understand anything
else.

Do us all a favor please.....become president and take care of all of
this crap for us. You seem to be able to see all of the flaws that this
administration is responcible for. Get your self elected and see if you
can do any better. It's so EASY to sit here and say all of the crap you
want to spew about our president on here.......but untill you acually
wear his shoe's???........you don't have a clue as to what your talking
about. Thank God you do live in a country where your allowed to trash
your president and live to talk about it the next day.

Agreed. Adore this country for the freedom.


I don't think the guy's going to give me my apology, however much I
deserve it.

Shadoweaglw for president????

Im sorry, publicly, Poetandbush, oops,

Ill give you a public apology when you publicly denounce Bush, hows
that?


You know you love him......

Bush is an incompetent SOB. There, publicly denounced.

I apologize.
There public apology............

Somehow, I don't believe you. Oh well. I'll take it at face value.

back to the original thought here.

The issue about V.P. **** Cheney, owning stock in Haliburton.
We have absolutely no right to tell anyone that in order to attain a
post in congress, the senate, the white house, etc etc etc. that they
have to get rid of all stock they purchased prior to being given a seat.
HOWEVER, as VP **** Cheney should NOT be having any type of vote or
decision in Haliburtons compnay other than wether or not to sell his
current stock. And he should not be able to purchase more stock while
in office. In other words, let him keep his stock (especially as it is
a source of income for him) but do not give him any responsibilities in
the company while he is in office, as this would be a conflivt of
interest.

A fact u might not know. Haliburton was big in CA, and then split. Does
anyone know why?

Enron...............