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Topic: How do you know you are dealing with a psychopath?
scoundrel's photo
Sat 01/17/09 08:03 PM
I understand those phrases/descriptions


but what is the former Mrs. Bobbitt called?

Citizen_Joe's photo
Sat 01/17/09 08:41 PM

I understand those phrases/descriptions


but what is the former Mrs. Bobbitt called?


Dangerous.

Etrain's photo
Sat 01/17/09 08:45 PM

I understand those phrases/descriptions


but what is the former Mrs. Bobbitt called?

smokin Kinkysmokin

Citizen_Joe's photo
Sat 01/17/09 08:57 PM


when they can't produce certified paperwork from a shrink saying they are normal... here is a thought... do you have any papers saying your normal? people who have been to a shrink may have.. but you don't so who is the real crazy out there?


By walking by someone, you don't really know if they are mentally ill.


That's why I make no secret of it. laugh laugh laugh


However, if they are severely mentally ill, it will affect every aspect of their lives. Once you get to know someone, either someone that is anti-social personality disorder, it becomes clear that they have a mental illness. Generally those that the anti-social personality disorder, if you know what to look for, can show their mental illness fairly quickly.


My own diagnosis is bipolar II disorder, which isn't nearly as accute as Bipolar I, and not to be confused with being bisexual. It just means that if I were a 45 vinyl record, sometimes the record player plays at 33 and other times at 78. Like that TV show Monk, it is a gift and a curse. It's a gift for my career and often it's a state of hypomania that enhances creativity in my inventions, but a curse when I face an unsolvable problem, up to the point that I realize it is unsolvable. In terms of humor, you never know what I'm going to say, which makes at least 2 of us. laugh laugh

To lump an illness like mine in with sociopaths, borderline, or antisocials would be akin to labeling someone with a common cold contagious and dangerous, but that's okay, because I probably wouldn't notice it or worry much if you did. It would just be an example of paranoia, leading me to wonder which of us was sicker.

The other diagnosis you describe imply severe psychological and physiological disorders, which are a much more accute and dangerous prospect, especially in terms of relationships. What amazes me locally, is how so many women attract, fall right into, and return to, the arms of an abuser, who is most commonly of the bpd (borderline) variety. This is certainly not a nice guy whining response, just an observation.

tanyaann's photo
Sun 01/18/09 07:11 AM

To lump an illness like mine in with sociopaths, borderline, or antisocials would be akin to labeling someone with a common cold contagious and dangerous, but that's okay, because I probably wouldn't notice it or worry much if you did. It would just be an example of paranoia, leading me to wonder which of us was sicker.



I, in no way, had the intentions of lumping all the mental illnesses together. I have worked in mental health as a social work intern, as I know more about mental illness then most lay persons. However, those that are bipolar generally do not have the same symptoms as those that are anti-social personality disorder. Anti-social personality disorder is very different than bi-polar that is why they are classified differently in the DSM (Diagnosis and Statistic Manual).

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Sun 01/18/09 08:39 AM

Could someone you know have antisocial personality disorder?


[taken from www.mayoclinic.com]

Signs and symptoms of antisocial personality disorder may include:

Disregard for right and wrong
Persistent lying or deceit
Using charm or wit to manipulate others
Recurring difficulties with the law
Repeatedly violating the rights of others
Child abuse or neglect
Intimidation of others
Aggressive or violent behavior
Lack of remorse about harming others
Impulsive behavior
Agitation
Poor or abusive relationships
Irresponsible work behavior


My last roommate had many of thosetears

Thank God I have a good roomie now.

tanyaann's photo
Sun 01/18/09 08:44 AM


Could someone you know have antisocial personality disorder?


[taken from www.mayoclinic.com]

Signs and symptoms of antisocial personality disorder may include:

Disregard for right and wrong
Persistent lying or deceit
Using charm or wit to manipulate others
Recurring difficulties with the law
Repeatedly violating the rights of others
Child abuse or neglect
Intimidation of others
Aggressive or violent behavior
Lack of remorse about harming others
Impulsive behavior
Agitation
Poor or abusive relationships
Irresponsible work behavior


My last roommate had many of thosetears

Thank God I have a good roomie now.


OH! You did get a new roommate! :thumbsup: Good!!!

tanyaann's photo
Sun 01/18/09 08:46 AM

I understand those phrases/descriptions


but what is the former Mrs. Bobbitt called?


She might have been border-line personality disorder, which many females are diagonosed instead of anti-social personality disorder. But they run similar in characteristics. But border-line personality disorder, is more of the I either love you or hate you attitude.

Citizen_Joe's photo
Sun 01/18/09 09:16 AM


I understand those phrases/descriptions


but what is the former Mrs. Bobbitt called?


She might have been border-line personality disorder, which many females are diagonosed instead of anti-social personality disorder. But they run similar in characteristics. But border-line personality disorder, is more of the I either love you or hate you attitude.


I got fooled more than once by that one. A guy can feel like a king when someone who's borderline loves you. When it flips though, wow. You could invent the cure for cancer and would still be seen as a walking piece of fecal matter.

tanyaann's photo
Sun 01/18/09 09:46 AM



I understand those phrases/descriptions


but what is the former Mrs. Bobbitt called?


She might have been border-line personality disorder, which many females are diagonosed instead of anti-social personality disorder. But they run similar in characteristics. But border-line personality disorder, is more of the I either love you or hate you attitude.


I got fooled more than once by that one. A guy can feel like a king when someone who's borderline loves you. When it flips though, wow. You could invent the cure for cancer and would still be seen as a walking piece of fecal matter.


Yep. Border-line personality disorder is a trip. You are put on high, but as soon as they decide that they hate you... they hate you... some will also love you again and hate you again.

One way to tell if someone has border-line personality disorder is that if they have cut off ties to friends or families in the past but stated that they had no problems with family until one point.

freeonthree's photo
Sun 01/18/09 09:49 AM

Could someone you know have antisocial personality disorder?


[taken from www.mayoclinic.com]

Signs and symptoms of antisocial personality disorder may include:

Disregard for right and wrong
Persistent lying or deceit
Using charm or wit to manipulate others
Recurring difficulties with the law
Repeatedly violating the rights of others
Child abuse or neglect
Intimidation of others
Aggressive or violent behavior
Lack of remorse about harming others
Impulsive behavior
Agitation
Poor or abusive relationships
Irresponsible work behavior



So all used car salesmen are phycopaths I guess smokin

tanyaann's photo
Sun 01/18/09 09:55 AM


Could someone you know have antisocial personality disorder?


[taken from www.mayoclinic.com]

Signs and symptoms of antisocial personality disorder may include:

Disregard for right and wrong
Persistent lying or deceit
Using charm or wit to manipulate others
Recurring difficulties with the law
Repeatedly violating the rights of others
Child abuse or neglect
Intimidation of others
Aggressive or violent behavior
Lack of remorse about harming others
Impulsive behavior
Agitation
Poor or abusive relationships
Irresponsible work behavior



So all used car salesmen are phycopaths I guess smokin


:laughing: if not, pretty darn close! :laughing:

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Sun 01/18/09 11:01 AM



Could someone you know have antisocial personality disorder?


[taken from www.mayoclinic.com]

Signs and symptoms of antisocial personality disorder may include:

Disregard for right and wrong
Persistent lying or deceit
Using charm or wit to manipulate others
Recurring difficulties with the law
Repeatedly violating the rights of others
Child abuse or neglect
Intimidation of others
Aggressive or violent behavior

Had to she was making my life miserable.
Lack of remorse about harming others
Impulsive behavior
Agitation
Poor or abusive relationships
Irresponsible work behavior


My last roommate had many of thosetears

Thank God I have a good roomie now.


OH! You did get a new roommate! :thumbsup: Good!!!

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Sun 01/18/09 12:25 PM

Could someone you know have antisocial personality disorder?

I have come across a few in my time.

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Sun 01/18/09 12:29 PM

when they can't produce certified paperwork from a shrink saying they are normal... here is a thought... do you have any papers saying your normal? people who have been to a shrink may have.. but you don't so who is the real crazy out there?

People who have antisocial personality disorder are more criminal than crazy.

Riding_Dubz's photo
Sun 01/18/09 12:30 PM
He might be looking for ppl on a FREE DATING SITEdevil

tanyaann's photo
Sun 01/18/09 12:35 PM


when they can't produce certified paperwork from a shrink saying they are normal... here is a thought... do you have any papers saying your normal? people who have been to a shrink may have.. but you don't so who is the real crazy out there?

People who have antisocial personality disorder are more criminal than crazy.


No, not always. Some go their own life without actually comitting a crime but come close.

tanyaann's photo
Sun 01/18/09 12:36 PM

He might be looking for ppl on a FREE DATING SITEdevil


I wouldn't be surprised, I suspect one.

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Sun 01/18/09 12:38 PM



when they can't produce certified paperwork from a shrink saying they are normal... here is a thought... do you have any papers saying your normal? people who have been to a shrink may have.. but you don't so who is the real crazy out there?

People who have antisocial personality disorder are more criminal than crazy.


No, not always. Some go their own life without actually comitting a crime but come close.

Perhaps I should have qualified that their behavior tends to be classified as more amoral than mentally ill.

People with APD tend to get caught more than psychopaths do.

tanyaann's photo
Sun 01/18/09 12:40 PM




when they can't produce certified paperwork from a shrink saying they are normal... here is a thought... do you have any papers saying your normal? people who have been to a shrink may have.. but you don't so who is the real crazy out there?

People who have antisocial personality disorder are more criminal than crazy.


No, not always. Some go their own life without actually comitting a crime but come close.

Perhaps I should have qualified that their behavior tends to be classified as more amoral than mentally ill.

People with APD tend to get caught more than psychopaths do.


Psychopaths are Anti-social personality. The term psychopath is generally no longer used as a mental health diagnosis, its anti-social.

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