Topic: Ladies, what is your experience?
Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:19 PM


So, it would seem that generally this is true. Only Goof's response leaves me disturbed, but everyone else seems to agree that there is some truth to this.

Of course, it is a generalization, but I have found this to be a good guage. Especially if there was abuse by the mother. It seems that is a red flag to pay attention to.


It may be generally true but it seems sad that it's a double whammy to be abused by your mother as a child and then grow up to be unfit for a healthy relationship too.


But, isn't that how most sex offenders become sex offenders? By being victims of sexual abuse as a child? I agree it is horrible, but I think it still may be true.

no photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:22 PM
i dont have any sisters, nor do i have a mom in my life. i was raised by my late grandma and aunts so there was my maternal part i guess

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:22 PM

I have my moments of clarity...this is true. Limited as they may be. I don't know if I have ever actually thought about this kind of a relationship. I mean, I love my Mom, and she raised me to be a "man"...course my dad did too, so I got lucky on both accounts.

You might be onto something here Ruth. Wonder what Freud whould say?


I know. Here I start a thread on Mingle about a subject psychiatrists can't even agree on. laugh

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:24 PM

I have a sister and I can be an A-hole


Well, I have 2 sisters and I can be a real b1tch. I wonder if I would be nicer if I had brothers? :tongue:

no photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:25 PM
I know some guys without sisters. They certainly don't treat women worse than guys I know with sisters.

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:25 PM



So, it would seem that generally this is true. Only Goof's response leaves me disturbed, but everyone else seems to agree that there is some truth to this.

Of course, it is a generalization, but I have found this to be a good guage. Especially if there was abuse by the mother. It seems that is a red flag to pay attention to.


It may be generally true but it seems sad that it's a double whammy to be abused by your mother as a child and then grow up to be unfit for a healthy relationship too.


But, isn't that how most sex offenders become sex offenders? By being victims of sexual abuse as a child? I agree it is horrible, but I think it still may be true.


If so, I'd submit that there should be much harsher punishments for mothers who abuse their sons.
Maybe even have legislators consider that they obtain a license or permit by undergoing phychological screening to prove they're fit.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:29 PM

If so, I'd submit that there should be much harsher punishments for mothers who abuse their sons.
Maybe even have legislators consider that they obtain a license or permit by undergoing phychological screening to prove they're fit.


Well, that's good in theory, but giving the government more power over our personal lives never really works out in the long run.

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:31 PM


If so, I'd submit that there should be much harsher punishments for mothers who abuse their sons.
Maybe even have legislators consider that they obtain a license or permit by undergoing phychological screening to prove they're fit.


Well, that's good in theory, but giving the government more power over our personal lives never really works out in the long run.


Ok...I guess we'll just have to live with the serial killers, rapist, wife beaters and all around everyday jerks then...
It was just a thought...

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:33 PM



If so, I'd submit that there should be much harsher punishments for mothers who abuse their sons.
Maybe even have legislators consider that they obtain a license or permit by undergoing phychological screening to prove they're fit.


Well, that's good in theory, but giving the government more power over our personal lives never really works out in the long run.


Ok...I guess we'll just have to live with the serial killers, rapist, wife beaters and all around everyday jerks then...
It was just a thought...


that wasn't my point. And, I don't see why you have to be sarcastic just because I didn't agree with your solution. I don't know what the answer is.


AllenAqua's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:36 PM
It does seem ironic to me though that you need a license to fish, to build a garage, to sell cotton candy at the beach, but any two idiots who can manage to pull their pants down can be trusted with the welfare and upbringing of a human life.

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:37 PM




If so, I'd submit that there should be much harsher punishments for mothers who abuse their sons.
Maybe even have legislators consider that they obtain a license or permit by undergoing phychological screening to prove they're fit.


Well, that's good in theory, but giving the government more power over our personal lives never really works out in the long run.


Ok...I guess we'll just have to live with the serial killers, rapist, wife beaters and all around everyday jerks then...
It was just a thought...


that wasn't my point. And, I don't see why you have to be sarcastic just because I didn't agree with your solution. I don't know what the answer is.




Please forgive because I don't mean to be sarcastic, but rather to make a point that relates directly to your point. Absolutely no offense meant in any way...

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:39 PM

It does seem ironic to me though that you need a license to fish, to build a garage, to sell cotton candy at the beach, but any two idiots who can manage to pull their pants down can be trusted with the welfare and upbringing of a human life.


I completely agree with that, but I don't think you should have to have a license to fish, build a garage or sell cotton candy. I don't even think you should have to register your car. But, that's a whole thread for politics.

I just think there has to be a better way to stop child abuse than giving the government more power than they already have. Department of Children and Family Services can't even get it right with the power they do have.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:40 PM


Please forgive because I don't mean to be sarcastic, but rather to make a point that relates directly to your point. Absolutely no offense meant in any way...


Okay, I'm sorry if I took it the wrong way.

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:47 PM
Edited by AllenAqua on Fri 12/26/08 09:51 PM


It does seem ironic to me though that you need a license to fish, to build a garage, to sell cotton candy at the beach, but any two idiots who can manage to pull their pants down can be trusted with the welfare and upbringing of a human life.


I completely agree with that, but I don't think you should have to have a license to fish, build a garage or sell cotton candy. I don't even think you should have to register your car. But, that's a whole thread for politics.

I just think there has to be a better way to stop child abuse than giving the government more power than they already have. Department of Children and Family Services can't even get it right with the power they do have.


I agree that there's no easy answers to this dilemna. I'm just saying that if the root problem is child abuse, maybe that's something that should be addressed and not just trying to avoid the crazies that result from it.
I understand that it's a deep and serious concern for women who just want to feel assured that their love interest doesn't turn out to be a jerk, and that being able to effectively screen them out by looking at their past relationships is essential to avoid becoming entangled in less than desirable relationships.
Believe me, I've dated some real losers in the past too and it never occured to me to ask them about their relationships with their fathers or brothers.
Maybe I should do that from now on.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:53 PM

I agree that there's no easy answers to this dilemna. I'm just saying that if the root problem is child abuse, maybe that's something that should be addressed and not just trying to avoid the crazies that result from it.
I understand that it's a deep and serious concern for women who just want to feel assured that their love interest doesn't turn out to be a jerk, and that being able to effectively screen them out by looking at their past relationships is essential to avoid becoming entangled in less than desirable relationships.


Just for the record, I don't know that it is a root cause. I believe that studies have shown it to be a factor rather than a cause. Of course, that's with physical and emotional abuse. I think with sexual abuse they are able to draw a clearer line between victim and perpetrator.

Either way, I was bringing it up not really for myself, but because I am raising two daughters and I worry about these kinds of things all the time.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:54 PM

Believe me, I've dated some real losers in the past too and it never occured to me to ask them about their relationships with their fathers or brothers.
Maybe I should do that from now on.


A woman's relationship with her father while she was growing up will definitely impact her in her adult relationships with a man. Some are impacted more and some less.

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:55 PM
I have two daughters also so I can totally relate to that.

evian001's photo
Fri 12/26/08 10:00 PM

Do you think guys with sisters treat women better than guys without sisters? And, what about their relationship with their mother? Does it make a difference in how they treat you as a significant other?


i dont think it matters cuz most the time they thinkin with their member brain...

than the one in their skull

and their member brain..isnt very smart to be in lead command

galendgirl's photo
Sat 12/27/08 06:59 AM
Depends on the relationship they had with the sister(s) and/or mother...

njmom05's photo
Sat 12/27/08 07:05 AM


Do you think guys with sisters treat women better than guys without sisters? And, what about their relationship with their mother? Does it make a difference in how they treat you as a significant other?


Well, my ex was an only boy with 2 sisters. He revered his mother and one sister. The other sister he didnt get along with. He treated strangers better than he treated me.

Same experience for me. Now my brother had an older and a younger sister and is very respectful to women.