if i can convince one mortal thing HOW it is perfect, i have not lived in vain.........

Abracadabra,

I'm going to assume that I wasn't clear, so I will explain the sentence below.

Who says I must "WANT" it to be true, couldn't it be that I believe it to be true?

Christianity is reasonable to me. It makes sense. You may choose what to believe based on if you want to believe it or not, but I believe what seems to the best of my reason to be true. I don't pick "truth" based on how I feel about it, but rather how I think about it. Christianity is reasonable to me. I know it's not to you and I accept that, are you open minded enough to accept that Christianity makes sense to some people, even if it doesn't to you?

So it's not a question of want or choose... I think you are revealing a lot about how you think with those questions... What it comes down to is what is reasonable and fits the data as I understand it.

Well, you're the one who started a thread trying to sell the notion that Christianity is reasonable.

I responded to it by explaining why I feel that it's not the least bit reasonable.

That's all I can do.

If want people to agree with you try posting in the Christian Forum.

Otherwise, you can expect opposing opinions when you try to make assertions that "Christianity is reaonable".

I'm not truly trying to change your mind Spider.

I just jumped on the opportunity to address the topic in general.

Thank you for opening the door to the topic.

I think I gave valid reasons why people might want to consider that the religion may not be as reasonable as you believe it to be.

Like I say, if you want agreeable replies, try the Christian Forums.

Abra,

What you are saying here is that you refuse to believe that others find Christianity reasonable. That's a very closed minded statement, but I respect your decision to be closed minded. I do wonder why you choose to be closed minded. Why would someone want to be closed minded, when the alternative is so much better at spreading peace?

Oh please.

You talk about closed mindedness?

A person who believes that only the bigoty of the Bible is the true word of God and that all other claims of spirituality are false?

It is precisely this kind of bigtoed ignorance that makes Christianity so dangerous to world peace.

You can worship Jesus as God all you want. I truly couldn't care less.

But face it Spider, Christianity doesn't stop there. Christianity demands that only Jesus is God and that all other religions are a rejection of God and that Jesus will come back to rule the world and every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

It's an egotistical religion that doesn't care about humanity or peace. All it gives a crap about is being right and putting down all other religions by simply refusing to give them any credence or recognition at all.

You talk about closed-mindedness. Christiantiy is the most intolerant closed-minded religion ever created by mankind. No other religion has ever come close to being as arrogant as Christianity. It's the most arrogant religion in the world.

Even Judaism and Islam pale in comparison, and they are both based on the same arrogant foundation of a self-confessed jealous God who commanded as his First Commandment "Thou shalt have no other God's before me!"

Christianity is the epitome of close-minded arrogance by the self-confession of its own deity.

Don't try to push your beliefs onto me Spider.

If you want to believe in a hateful self-centered egotistical blood thristy self-confessed jealous God, be my guest.

But don't call me closed-minded for having recognized the unreasonable absurded in that.

It's an arrogant closed-mined religion that you worship. And its followers won't be happy unless they can proselytize that ignorance and closed-mindedness to the entire world.

What are you doing yourself right now?

You're trying to SELL the religion buy trying to convince non-Christians that it's reasonable. And then you have the audacity to call them closed-minded when they point out its absurdities.

Do yourself a favor and just hang out with the Christians. You make a terrible preacher. And I say that with all due respect.

Even I could preach Christianity better than you do if I wanted to preach it. In fact, I could be a very convincing preacher of Christianity if I wanted to be. But there's no way I'm going to support such a bigoted machine.

JESUS SAID ,

" I AM

THE WAY

THE TRUTH

THE LIFE...........


NO MAN

CAN COME

TO THE FATHER


BUT

BY

ME."

You have no clue whether Jesus actually said that.

Jesus never wrote anything down.

All you have to go by is the demagoguery of unscrupulous men who put words in the mouth of a dead Jesus.

One thing we can know with absolute certainty is that Jesus was not the son of the God of Abraham.

That's crystal clear because Jesus didn't even agree with the commandments of the God of Abraham.

He clearly taught people to quit stonning sinners to death, and to quit seeking revenge.

But those were both things that the God of Abraham had commanded people to do.

So clearly Jesus was not the Son of the God of Abraham.

That's crystal clear.