Topic: More Christian Love
Lynann's photo
Tue 11/18/08 11:06 AM
Gee, I am accused of hating Christians alot here.

I don't.

Someone on boards put it just right one day when they said they didn't have an issue with Jesus but with his fan club. I am paraphrasing. Apologies to the poster for not recalling his or her name.

Here's a member of his fan club for your consideration.

A BAPTIST pastor has admitted telling Jewish leaders that Jews were "going to hell" and faced a fate "worse than the Holocaust" because they had not accepted Jesus as their saviour.

But Pastor Kevin Harris of the Illawarra Community Baptist Church in Wollongong says his comments were "misunderstood and misquoted" in a mass email circulated yesterday by the chief of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, Vic Alhadeff.

Mr Harris, a US-trained minister from Virginia, said his comments applied to all people who rejected Jesus, not only Jews, and were based in scripture. "The Bible says that all have sinned and all are worthy of hell," he told the Herald. "That includes everyone, until we receive Jesus as our saviour.

"Jesus and the Apostles were Jewish. They explained that the Old Testament Jewish faith looked forward to the messiah and the New Testament reveals Jesus as the messiah."

But despite Mr Harris's attempt to clarify his remarks, Mr Alhadeff said he was shocked to hear the leader of a Christian congregation speak so bluntly.

"It was a chilling experience," he said. "While one is only too aware that there are fundamentalist beliefs and extremist preachers out there, his brazen approach and the fact that he is influencing others on a daily basis are the issues of real concern."

Mr Alhadeff and the board's education manager, Lynda Ben-Menashe, met Mr Harris six days ago on a tour of the Shoalhaven region to consult religious leaders, including Anglican and Catholic bishops. He told the Herald that Mr Harris's comments reflected a "religiously charged attitude", rather than racial anti-Semitism.

"The pastor was extremely welcoming and had a smile on his face throughout the meeting," Mr Alhadeff said. But he feared such language might provoke racial hatred towards Jews.

Mr Harris said his comments were made in a private meeting "in my lounge room" and admitted using the word "holocaust" but said it was Biblical language.

"I explained that I love the Jewish people very much and that some awful times were coming for them but I did not wish that upon them at all."

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Tue 11/18/08 11:08 AM
Illawarra? Wollongong?

what country was this in?

Lynann's photo
Tue 11/18/08 11:11 AM
Australia

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 11/18/08 11:14 AM
:smile: interestingglasses

sweetandstrong's photo
Tue 11/18/08 11:16 AM
I realize this is a little off topic but, I just received an e-mail with this idiot’s propaganda.

www.dutchsheets.org

snarkytwain's photo
Tue 11/18/08 11:18 AM
But see, that's exactly what the Bible teaches. Exactly. It is also the ONLY reason I'm not 100% Christian anymore. The one thing I refuse to believe in or agree with.

Still, it is also the fundamental cornerstone of Christianity.

Funny, though... it's not what Jesus said was supposed to be the cornerstone.

Things that make ya go hmmmm...

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Tue 11/18/08 02:08 PM
christianity is just a myth....based on earlier happenings the this world , like about 1500 bc.
a reason to bring the masses together for political and monetary gain... there wouldnt be any churches with out MONEY.....

churches represent power. and use fear of HELL to obtain their goals...

snarkytwain's photo
Tue 11/18/08 04:02 PM
I don't agree that Christianity is a myth, but neither do I think that faith, itself, in any form is a myth or that the Bible is 100% infallable. I do, however, agree wholeheartedly that people use religion as a very effective fear and control device.

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Tue 11/18/08 04:09 PM

I don't agree that Christianity is a myth, but neither do I think that faith, itself, in any form is a myth or that the Bible is 100% infallable. I do, however, agree wholeheartedly that people use religion as a very effective fear and control device.
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