Topic: FOX Kansas reports...
MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 11/17/08 11:09 PM


"America we have a Muslim president. This is sin against the Lord."



flowerforyou If we did have a muslim president, it would NOT be a sin against the Lord.flowerforyou



True. But when the words "sin" and "lord" enter a conversation logic will cease to exist.
:smile: What this "pastor" is saying has NO scriptural basis.:smile:

polaritybear's photo
Mon 11/17/08 11:17 PM



"America we have a Muslim president. This is sin against the Lord."



flowerforyou If we did have a muslim president, it would NOT be a sin against the Lord.flowerforyou



True. But when the words "sin" and "lord" enter a conversation logic will cease to exist.
:smile: What this "pastor" is saying has NO scriptural basis.:smile:


Understood. I will admit I am not familiar with the scripture so I will take your word on this.

But if I find out otherwise...youre in trouble mister.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 11/17/08 11:24 PM




"America we have a Muslim president. This is sin against the Lord."



flowerforyou If we did have a muslim president, it would NOT be a sin against the Lord.flowerforyou



True. But when the words "sin" and "lord" enter a conversation logic will cease to exist.
:smile: What this "pastor" is saying has NO scriptural basis.:smile:


Understood. I will admit I am not familiar with the scripture so I will take your word on this.

But if I find out otherwise...youre in trouble mister.
:tongue:

Winx's photo
Tue 11/18/08 09:02 AM





"America we have a Muslim president. This is sin against the Lord."



flowerforyou If we did have a muslim president, it would NOT be a sin against the Lord.flowerforyou



True. But when the words "sin" and "lord" enter a conversation logic will cease to exist.
:smile: What this "pastor" is saying has NO scriptural basis.:smile:


Understood. I will admit I am not familiar with the scripture so I will take your word on this.

But if I find out otherwise...youre in trouble mister.
:tongue:



Hmmm....I wonder if he found out otherwise.

Lynann's photo
Tue 11/18/08 09:23 AM
Silly me...I think greater knowledge leads to greater understand.

Understanding leads to respect.

Respect leads to peace.

It might be helpful for some to learn alittle about Islam.

Here is a clear easy to read interesting guide.

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm

reydar's photo
Tue 11/18/08 09:24 AM
Edited by reydar on Tue 11/18/08 09:24 AM
okay.. well, so.. the bible does say "thou shalt not have any other gods before me" however, they also believe that Allah=God, the difference being whether they believe that Jesus was the son of God, or mearly a "prophet" this would be where christianity vs muslim differs the most, they believe that Jesus was a prophet, a good prophet but only a prophet, would it be different if the President Elect were Jewish??? Seeing as even the Christians (at least in my sect) believe that the Jews are the chosen people and that Isreal is their designated holy land. I think if Obama had been at one time Jewish, that there would not be such an uproar even though the Jews believe that Jesus was not Gods son either but because they were persicuted for so long it would be okay.. but because Obama's muslim heritage has offended so many (even though MOST muslims are peaceful people) he's considered and grouped in with the devils propaganda. This is crap. The only reason he is being persicuted is because he is 1/2 black and his father was muslim. IMO.. sorry rambling again.

Giocamo's photo
Tue 11/18/08 09:34 AM

to the op...the preacher has the right to post and preach anything, true or false, that he sees fit and that his congregation tolerates; as long as it is not treasonous. IMO. The same goes for the protesters, as long as they do not interfer with the rights of the ppl of that church. As for the comment that it can be seen from the street, oh well. If you do not like it, then don't look! Duh...what a novel idea. If you are sitting at the airport next to someone and she is looking at pornographic pics of men, are you going to make a scene and scream and yell and insult her, or are you just going to look over their shoulder quietly?noway laugh


hip hip hooray !!!...drinker ...

no photo
Tue 11/18/08 09:37 AM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 11/18/08 09:39 AM
"Bringing religion into politics takes away that true meaning of freedom" templter 2008

reydar's photo
Tue 11/18/08 09:43 AM
It is but.. for if you take into consideration the church out of Topeka that protests at funerals... I believe some states have made laws preventing this such behavior... as such I believe that church should be separated from state. This church obviously isn't for the separation though... This is why churches get burned down.. IMO...

Giocamo's photo
Tue 11/18/08 09:44 AM

"Bringing religion into politics takes away that true meaning of freedom" templter 2008


I guess I'm just focusing on the freedom of speech aspect...like I've said before...when the Nazi's marched in Skokie...it was hateful and wrong...but...allowed...sadly in this country...it's freedom to love and freedom to hate...

reydar's photo
Tue 11/18/08 09:45 AM


"Bringing religion into politics takes away that true meaning of freedom" templter 2008


I guess I'm just focusing on the freedom of speech aspect...like I've said before...when the Nazi's marched in Skokie...it was hateful and wrong...but...allowed...sadly in this country...it's freedom to love and freedom to hate...


So are you saying its okay to commit hate crimes IE: call a guy at work a N.....??? that is a hate crime.

Giocamo's photo
Tue 11/18/08 09:53 AM



"Bringing religion into politics takes away that true meaning of freedom" templter 2008


I guess I'm just focusing on the freedom of speech aspect...like I've said before...when the Nazi's marched in Skokie...it was hateful and wrong...but...allowed...sadly in this country...it's freedom to love and freedom to hate...


So are you saying its okay to commit hate crimes IE: call a guy at work a N.....??? that is a hate crime.


I'm justsaying it's free to hate...and...to love...crime ?...I don't think I mentioned that...it's about protest...speech...

reydar's photo
Tue 11/18/08 09:55 AM




"Bringing religion into politics takes away that true meaning of freedom" templter 2008


I guess I'm just focusing on the freedom of speech aspect...like I've said before...when the Nazi's marched in Skokie...it was hateful and wrong...but...allowed...sadly in this country...it's freedom to love and freedom to hate...


So are you saying its okay to commit hate crimes IE: call a guy at work a N.....??? that is a hate crime.


I'm justsaying it's free to hate...and...to love...crime ?...I don't think I mentioned that...it's about protest...speech...


I think that when this church is teaching people to hate, they are teaching people to be predjudice, and most predjudice brings crime... Crime prevention, is all i'm saying...

Giocamo's photo
Tue 11/18/08 10:00 AM





"Bringing religion into politics takes away that true meaning of freedom" templter 2008


I guess I'm just focusing on the freedom of speech aspect...like I've said before...when the Nazi's marched in Skokie...it was hateful and wrong...but...allowed...sadly in this country...it's freedom to love and freedom to hate...


So are you saying its okay to commit hate crimes IE: call a guy at work a N.....??? that is a hate crime.


I'm justsaying it's free to hate...and...to love...crime ?...I don't think I mentioned that...it's about protest...speech...


I think that when this church is teaching people to hate, they are teaching people to be predjudice, and most predjudice brings crime... Crime prevention, is all i'm saying...indifferent



saying Obama is a Muslim is preaching hate ?...

Giocamo's photo
Tue 11/18/08 10:00 AM





"Bringing religion into politics takes away that true meaning of freedom" templter 2008


I guess I'm just focusing on the freedom of speech aspect...like I've said before...when the Nazi's marched in Skokie...it was hateful and wrong...but...allowed...sadly in this country...it's freedom to love and freedom to hate...


So are you saying its okay to commit hate crimes IE: call a guy at work a N.....??? that is a hate crime.


I'm justsaying it's free to hate...and...to love...crime ?...I don't think I mentioned that...it's about protest...speech...


I think that when this church is teaching people to hate, they are teaching people to be predjudice, and most predjudice brings crime... Crime prevention, is all i'm saying...indifferent



saying Obama is a Muslim is preaching hate ?...

reydar's photo
Tue 11/18/08 10:00 AM
Edited by reydar on Tue 11/18/08 10:01 AM






"Bringing religion into politics takes away that true meaning of freedom" templter 2008


I guess I'm just focusing on the freedom of speech aspect...like I've said before...when the Nazi's marched in Skokie...it was hateful and wrong...but...allowed...sadly in this country...it's freedom to love and freedom to hate...


So are you saying its okay to commit hate crimes IE: call a guy at work a N.....??? that is a hate crime.


I'm justsaying it's free to hate...and...to love...crime ?...I don't think I mentioned that...it's about protest...speech...


I think that when this church is teaching people to hate, they are teaching people to be predjudice, and most predjudice brings crime... Crime prevention, is all i'm saying...indifferent



saying Obama is a Muslim is preaching hate ?...


I think in this day and age, YES.. especially when it says that it is evil..

Lynann's photo
Tue 11/18/08 10:03 AM
Well gosh I think it's safe to say that posting that lie on a lighted sign in front of a church wasn't motivated by love, truth or in the interest of creating a better world.


reydar's photo
Tue 11/18/08 10:04 AM
your right it isn't.. and I hope every member of his church, switches churches... and that he is all alone in his views.

Giocamo's photo
Tue 11/18/08 10:06 AM

Well gosh I think it's safe to say that posting that lie on a lighted sign in front of a church wasn't motivated by love, truth or in the interest of creating a better world.




well...I'll let you two define what is and isn't hate...I see an argument...right around the corner...gulp !!...waving

no photo
Tue 11/18/08 10:08 AM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 11/18/08 10:11 AM






"Bringing religion into politics takes away that true meaning of freedom" templter 2008


I guess I'm just focusing on the freedom of speech aspect...like I've said before...when the Nazi's marched in Skokie...it was hateful and wrong...but...allowed...sadly in this country...it's freedom to love and freedom to hate...


So are you saying its okay to commit hate crimes IE: call a guy at work a N.....??? that is a hate crime.


I'm justsaying it's free to hate...and...to love...crime ?...I don't think I mentioned that...it's about protest...speech...


I think that when this church is teaching people to hate, they are teaching people to be predjudice, and most predjudice brings crime... Crime prevention, is all i'm saying...indifferent



saying Obama is a Muslim is preaching hate ?...
So what if he really is? Is that in the requirements to be president. Why should your religion have control over mine? What about the atheist?