Topic: New World Order is No Joke!
Winx's photo
Tue 11/11/08 02:40 PM

Wikipedia is always a good place to start. It's not entirely reliable but it does give you a starting place to define terms and give you links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faction_One




I read it. It seems like a lot of paranoia to me.

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Tue 11/11/08 02:47 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8883910961351786332

new world order isnt so new...the above link is an hour long movie produced by the Zeitgeist movement (Project Venus).. some may find it worth taking a look..(except for the ones laughing all the way to the camps).

Ruth34611's photo
Tue 11/11/08 03:15 PM
I will have to watch this video later after my girls go to bed.

If there is one thing I know it is that history will repeat itself. The other thing I know is that man has endless capabilities of coming up with new ways to seize control and retain/gain power.

warmachine's photo
Wed 11/12/08 04:00 AM
This isn't just something you can find on youtube either, when the "global" economy started to crash, there were many world leaders from China to Gordon Brown of the U.K. to Sarkozy calling for a New World Order or something to that effect. When Russia b!tch slapped Georgia over the South Ossetia business, the President of Georgia flat out said Russia attacking them back was a direct assault on the New World Order.

Read the book "The Grand ChessBoard" by Zbignew Brzezinski or some of the stuff written by the enemy of humanity, Henry Kissinger.

Go read David Rockefellers memoirs and see what he had to say.

Driven is right, there's speculation as to exactly what the heck is going on with the shadowy facilities with the wire meant to keep whatever it is inside. An interesting thing you can find on the net, just for what if's sake, Google Red Lists, Blue Lists and see what pops up.

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 11/12/08 05:35 AM

This isn't just something you can find on youtube either, when the "global" economy started to crash, there were many world leaders from China to Gordon Brown of the U.K. to Sarkozy calling for a New World Order or something to that effect. When Russia b!tch slapped Georgia over the South Ossetia business, the President of Georgia flat out said Russia attacking them back was a direct assault on the New World Order.

Read the book "The Grand ChessBoard" by Zbignew Brzezinski or some of the stuff written by the enemy of humanity, Henry Kissinger.

Go read David Rockefellers memoirs and see what he had to say.

Driven is right, there's speculation as to exactly what the heck is going on with the shadowy facilities with the wire meant to keep whatever it is inside. An interesting thing you can find on the net, just for what if's sake, Google Red Lists, Blue Lists and see what pops up.


Thank you! I really appreciate that. I prefer books to the internet as it's hard for me to read lengthy articles on the computer screen.

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Wed 11/12/08 06:43 AM
Edited by DoYouKnowMe on Wed 11/12/08 06:45 AM
people are so afraid of socialism or communism...always worried about loosing their rights and freedoms..when in truth the real masters and owners of the world are the few elite capitalists those 10% that owns 90% of the world and they are the ones deciding how you get to live..


HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Wed 11/12/08 06:48 AM
The North American Union will be the first step.

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Wed 11/12/08 06:50 AM
Get ready for the Amero...thank goodness for Chavez, at least he's putting the breaks on North American Corporate greed...too bad for Mexico..

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 11/12/08 10:12 AM

people are so afraid of socialism or communism...always worried about loosing their rights and freedoms..when in truth the real masters and owners of the world are the few elite capitalists those 10% that owns 90% of the world and they are the ones deciding how you get to live..





there are VERY few world elite members i would believe. Less than a percent of our population. I don't believe that capitalism in the purist form is our enemy. It's when capitalism is "regulated" that the richest, get richer. They hide behind the pretense of helping people while slowly taking away our rights. Gun control is a prime example.

They take away our rights to do for ourselves, then promise to take on the job for "our benefit". This is our enemy. The more dependent we are, the worse off we will be.

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Wed 11/12/08 10:21 AM

The North American Union will be the first step.


Actually, the first step was back in Britian during the wars with Napolean. England fell under the rule of the elitist. The first hope was the forming of our country after the revolutionary war (this is what i believe.) The civil war was the first big step to bring down this establishment. Our forefathers saw this...

"Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence."
-Thomas Jefferson

Ever since then little things, like the formation of the federal reserve in 1913, and the formation of the Counsel on Foreign Relations in 1917. Then we have the Great depression in 1929 and the "fixes" for the depression that most economists agree, actually prolonged it. Price fixing throwing government money at it while plowing crops into the ground while people are starving... Once again, taking away our ability to take care of ourselves, then befriending us by stepping up to take the job.

The thought of making free market and capitalism the enemy, i truely believe, is a message given to us by the propoganda machine. I think you will find almost all the market's downfalls are due to federal regulation, and propoganda.

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Wed 11/12/08 10:25 AM
If the NWO is so powerful, wouldn't they have already taken over?


Just a thought, i won't believe it until i see it.

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Wed 11/12/08 10:29 AM
Example:

HMO, and the FDA make certain medical procedures illegal. Not because they are a health threat, but because they cant be patented. These are cheap, non invasive procedures with no side effects. And they require no drug treatment.

The cost of medicine is so high now, that people can't afford their own insurance. The answer our government gives; instead of making it more affordable, they are starting a new program to "take care" of the ones that can't afford it.


If our government really wanted to help us, they would be cutting down on their size, while changing their foreign policy to a noninterventive one. This would save over a trillion dollars a year. Half would be givent back to the people in tax cuts, and the other half would be put against our deficit.

If they reback our dollar the price of gas would drop DRASTICALLY.

But instead they print between 2 and 5 trillion dollars to give to the richest people in the world, which is said will add 10% to 15% in inflation, which will in turn lower the value of our dollar yet another 10% to 15%. This is a tax.

So essentially they give the wealthy 2 to 5 trillion dollars, while raising our taxes and they act like they are doing us a favor. People wondered why i was so against Obama and McCain...

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Wed 11/12/08 10:31 AM

If the NWO is so powerful, wouldn't they have already taken over?


Just a thought, i won't believe it until i see it.


Yes they are powerful. They have a lot of influence. But there are too many free people that can stand up against them. This is why they are manipulating slowly, until there aren't enough left.

If you don't believe in the NWO, Bush senior and Clinton, made references to it in some of their speeches.

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Wed 11/12/08 10:37 AM


Wikipedia is always a good place to start. It's not entirely reliable but it does give you a starting place to define terms and give you links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faction_One




I read it. It seems like a lot of paranoia to me.


yup

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 11/12/08 11:10 AM
It actually sounds quite plausible to me.

snarkytwain's photo
Wed 11/12/08 12:42 PM
Edited by snarkytwain on Wed 11/12/08 12:44 PM
Honestly -- and I'm not talking about the specific theories of what this NWO would or may be, just generally speaking -- does anyone really believe ours is the OLD world order?

Meaning... it changes.

Example:

HMO, and the FDA make certain medical procedures illegal. Not because they are a health threat, but because they cant be patented. These are cheap, non invasive procedures with no side effects. And they require no drug treatment.

The cost of medicine is so high now, that people can't afford their own insurance. The answer our government gives; instead of making it more affordable, they are starting a new program to "take care" of the ones that can't afford it.


If our government really wanted to help us, they would be cutting down on their size, while changing their foreign policy to a noninterventive one. This would save over a trillion dollars a year. Half would be givent back to the people in tax cuts, and the other half would be put against our deficit.

If they reback our dollar the price of gas would drop DRASTICALLY.

But instead they print between 2 and 5 trillion dollars to give to the richest people in the world, which is said will add 10% to 15% in inflation, which will in turn lower the value of our dollar yet another 10% to 15%. This is a tax.

So essentially they give the wealthy 2 to 5 trillion dollars, while raising our taxes and they act like they are doing us a favor. People wondered why i was so against Obama and McCain...


TOTALLY agree with you, 100%!!! But that, to me, isn't a NWO... it isn't even conspiracy... it's just simple common sense fact taken from the human element of greed and adding the kind of power Washington commands. Anyone who believes otherwise is sadly naieve.

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Wed 11/12/08 01:14 PM
Like i said before, i have no idea what the NWO is specifically. The banks are having a meeting at the end of this week, to find out what will happen with our monetary system. Big changes can appear to be small. 1971 our monetary system changed. It was no longer backed by our dollar.

Something else is going to change soon, but bigger.

Our monetary system is debt based. I am talking about the worldwide monetary system.

100 trillion dollars worth of debt worldwide

4 quadrillion dollars worth of assets worldwide

The debt grows exponentially faster than the assets. This system will come crashing down world wide. The mathmatics behind that is certain. When, is an entirely different question.
What will happen?, is another different question.

We have something that is certainly going to change. We are changing everyday, but this change will probably be bigger than anything we have seen in our lifetimes.

Disbelief in this does not make someone dumb in any way. We have gotten comfortable in a stable world, that's all. Not trying to tell anyone to panic. But i do think people should prepare.

I also think people need to stand up to overrides on our constitution. Things like gun laws, the patriot act, this bailout. We somehow need to stand up and charge people with treason. Instead we vote them into presidency....grumble

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Wed 11/12/08 01:26 PM
Edited by snarkytwain on Wed 11/12/08 01:26 PM
Dumb and naive are not the same thing. One can be fixed, if there is drive to do so. flowerforyou

I realize things are going to change. I am hoping for the better, but it's impossible to know for sure. Taking into account what Washington has gotten away with in the past, and the fact that they will not want to give up any of their own money, power, or assets, and taking into account how much more educated and awake the "common" people are these days... I'm thinking something's gonna have to give. It probably won't be pretty.

Then again, since when has any major American change been pretty at first? In fact, since when has any revolution in any country at all been pretty? Scary, yeah. Worrisome, totally. But more than likely, not only needed, but inevitable.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 11/12/08 01:39 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Wed 11/12/08 01:41 PM

Dumb and naive are not the same thing. One can be fixed, if there is drive to do so. flowerforyou

I realize things are going to change. I am hoping for the better, but it's impossible to know for sure. Taking into account what Washington has gotten away with in the past, and the fact that they will not want to give up any of their own money, power, or assets, and taking into account how much more educated and awake the "common" people are these days... I'm thinking something's gonna have to give. It probably won't be pretty.

Then again, since when has any major American change been pretty at first? In fact, since when has any revolution in any country at all been pretty? Scary, yeah. Worrisome, totally. But more than likely, not only needed, but inevitable.



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The revolution may be sooner than later. Our forefathers new this, and in fact they were quoted saying that countries need revolutions from time to time...

Hell the second amendment protects citizen's rights to bear arms for specifically for this reason...

I would have rather seen one at the ballot box, instead of a shooting match. It's not too late though...

adj4u's photo
Thu 11/13/08 07:54 AM
the united country of earth

hhhmmmmmmmm

kinda weird ring to it don't ya think

does the equate the united states to which state

china is what new york????

india california ???