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Topic: Dumbing Down Of America
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Sat 11/01/08 04:25 PM




huh Who is "powerful,and unforgiving"?huh Can you show me specific instances where this person didnt forgive someone?huh And whats his grip on people and why dont he control you?huh Obama isnt even president yet, so how can he do these things in your life?:smile:

Uh sorry, I forgot to mention my clairvoyant abilities. When running for the state Senate, rather than run against his opponents Obama chose to have his cult followers challenge the nominating petition signatures of his opponents thereby disqualifying them. According to the Chicago Tribune, Mr. Obama's petition challengers reported to him nightly on their progress as they disqualified his opponents' signatures on various technical grounds.
In the end, Mr. Obama disqualified all four opponents -- including the incumbent state senator, Alice Palmer, and three minor candidates.
Back it up with facts..Otherwise nothing but your opinion!

Since when is quoting the Chicago Tribune MY opinion? Geez, I even asked YOU GUYS to do some research yourself. Don't start playing debate with me here. My opinion is just fine, facts or not. So is yours. This is just a discussion and don't start trying to silence me.
Your right its not your opinion just someone elses..


Now you have to attack my thought process too? Look, of all the people on most forums I'm' one of the few who says we were all duped this election season. I can't stand Obama or McCain. I'm not one of your partisan hacks. I'm just fed up that America has sunk this low.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:27 PM


What the guy behind the drum kit alleges is true. The Obama campaign back then challenged nominating petition signatures on technicalities. It was cutthroat Chicago politics, and it was legal.
huh If it was legal, then whats the problem?huh

Legal and ethical don't always intersect. If it did we would have no trial lawyers.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:30 PM


huh Who is "powerful,and unforgiving"?huh Can you show me specific instances where this person didnt forgive someone?huh And whats his grip on people and why dont he control you?huh Obama isnt even president yet, so how can he do these things in your life?:smile:

Uh sorry, I forgot to mention my clairvoyant abilities. When running for the state Senate, rather than run against his opponents Obama chose to have his cult followers challenge the nominating petition signatures of his opponents thereby disqualifying them. According to the Chicago Tribune, Mr. Obama's petition challengers reported to him nightly on their progress as they disqualified his opponents' signatures on various technical grounds.
In the end, Mr. Obama disqualified all four opponents -- including the incumbent state senator, Alice Palmer, and three minor candidates.

Do me a big favor. Rather than just be on the blind bandwagon, really really do some research into Obama. Also, keep in mind that I can't stand John McCain either. I'm just trying to get some people to wake up about their new Messiah.


Do you have a link to this?

Aren't people only disqualified for a reason?

Do a Google search for "Obama disqualified opponents" and you'll find enough links. Yes, they were disqualified for a reason. The reason was Obama didn't want to risk having people actually have to vote for him. It was easier to get elected without opposition by manipulating the system. Uh, that's my opinon by the way before someone starts to blow a fuse here.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:32 PM
Edited by Unknow on Sat 11/01/08 04:33 PM
And for what it's worth McCain is an addled old man who should have never been nominated. His choice of Sarah Palin was political suicide which I am sure he will be paid handsomely for one day, or at least allowed to live in the magical world of Obama-land. McCain has been set up from the beginning to lose this election. The perfect fall guy.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:33 PM

McCain has been set up from the beginning to lose this election. The perfect fall guy.

That's just silly.

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Sat 11/01/08 05:11 PM
Let's do the Twist!

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Sat 11/01/08 05:43 PM

Let's do the Twist!


Is that what you do after going the bathroom?laugh flowerforyou

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Sat 11/01/08 05:53 PM


Let's do the Twist!

Is that what you do after going the bathroom?laugh flowerforyou

No, that's the shimmy shake...

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Sat 11/01/08 06:13 PM



Let's do the Twist!

Is that what you do after going the bathroom?laugh flowerforyou

No, that's the shimmy shake...


OMG.laugh laugh

Well, he did tell us what he did in the bathroom earlier.laugh

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Sat 11/01/08 06:20 PM

Nice 2 know U dont know what you re talking about.

Sublime laugh

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Sat 11/01/08 06:21 PM
I find the thread title and the content to be kinda ironic

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Sat 11/01/08 06:22 PM
I find the thread title and content to be fkn hilarious!

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Sat 11/01/08 08:21 PM



Let's do the Twist!

Is that what you do after going the bathroom?laugh flowerforyou

No, that's the shimmy shake...


Now that was funny right there!:thumbsup: :laughing:

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Sun 11/02/08 04:08 AM
A little something on Obama's Chicago politics experience from Frank Rich in this morning's New York Times:

"But certainly the single most revelatory moment of the campaign — about the political establishment, not Obama — arrived in June when he reversed his position on taking public financing. This was a huge flip-flop (if no bigger than McCain’s on the Bush tax cuts). But the reaction was priceless. Suddenly the political world discovered that far from being some exotic hothouse flower, Obama was a pol from Chicago. Up until then it rarely occurred to anyone that he had to be a ruthless competitor, not merely a sweet-talking orator, to reach the top of a political machine even rougher than the Clinton machine he had brought down."

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Sun 11/02/08 04:54 AM


McCain has been set up from the beginning to lose this election. The perfect fall guy.

That's just silly.


I know it sounds that way. But explain the censorship that Ron Paul encountered... If the "republican party" actually cared who won, they would have given Dr. Paul as much exposure as possible. He would have won the election hands down...

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Sun 11/02/08 04:59 AM
Edited by madisonman on Sun 11/02/08 05:02 AM



McCain has been set up from the beginning to lose this election. The perfect fall guy.

That's just silly.


I know it sounds that way. But explain the censorship that Ron Paul encountered... If the "republican party" actually cared who won, they would have given Dr. Paul as much exposure as possible. He would have won the election hands down...
The same could be said for Nader or Kucinich. Kucinich would have reached the millions who allready demand war crimes trials and could have persuaded many more of his cause. what we have are compromise candidates, I expect no miracles from Obama and expect disaster from Mc'cant. Imagine Kucinich and Ron Paul running against each other..........the Old boys wouldnt know who to back.

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Sun 11/02/08 05:17 AM




McCain has been set up from the beginning to lose this election. The perfect fall guy.

That's just silly.


I know it sounds that way. But explain the censorship that Ron Paul encountered... If the "republican party" actually cared who won, they would have given Dr. Paul as much exposure as possible. He would have won the election hands down...
The same could be said for Nader or Kucinich. Kucinich would have reached the millions who allready demand war crimes trials and could have persuaded many more of his cause. what we have are compromise candidates, I expect no miracles from Obama and expect disaster from Mc'cant. Imagine Kucinich and Ron Paul running against each other..........the Old boys wouldnt know who to back.


drinker drinker

That would be one hell of an election wouldn't it?

It's rough how Nader is being treated right now. The guy is still running (unless that's recently changed), and he's on the ballot in 45 states, yet, still no coverage? That is just rediculous. He should have been allowed to debate with Obama and McCain in the very least...

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Sun 11/02/08 05:31 AM



McCain has been set up from the beginning to lose this election. The perfect fall guy.

That's just silly.

I know it sounds that way. But explain the censorship that Ron Paul encountered... If the "republican party" actually cared who won, they would have given Dr. Paul as much exposure as possible. He would have won the election hands down...

It's funny, but in a primary season poll I took, Paul and Kucinich were the candidates from each side most closely aligned with my beliefs. They were marginalized by their respective parties for their "extreme" views (principles) and unwillingness to compromise them. The party establishments, and the lobbyists who support them live in between. It's in that political pig-pen that "compromises" are reached and it's why in order to get any legislation of value passed, it must be adorned with the lipstick of 535 make-up artists in Congress.

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Sun 11/02/08 05:34 AM




McCain has been set up from the beginning to lose this election. The perfect fall guy.

That's just silly.

I know it sounds that way. But explain the censorship that Ron Paul encountered... If the "republican party" actually cared who won, they would have given Dr. Paul as much exposure as possible. He would have won the election hands down...

It's funny, but in a primary season poll I took, Paul and Kucinich were the candidates from each side most closely aligned with my beliefs. They were marginalized by their respective parties for their "extreme" views (principles) and unwillingness to compromise them. The party establishments, and the lobbyists who support them live in between. It's in that political pig-pen that "compromises" are reached and it's why in order to get any legislation of value passed, it must be adorned with the lipstick of 535 make-up artists in Congress.


I'd say it's time to fire some makeup artists...:wink:

We need more people like Dr. Paul and Kucinich...

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