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i have been taking cumadian for almost 3yrs do to my heartvalve. but thats not what my question is about
i have cumadian bruise on my left arm and the other day in dialysis they gave me a flu shot and you figure it shouldnt hurt after a few days well yesterday (fri) they had my blood pressure cuff on my arm and it was hurting so they put it on my rist.. i notice last nite while i was sleeping my arm was still hurting and i looked at it this morn and the spot where they gave me the flu shot is swollen like a golf ball. i dont know if this normal for being on cumadian. and should i contact my doc or the cumadian nurse.. (yea it hurts. i cant even sleep on that side. |
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Call the nurse
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Edited by
bad_girl
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Sat 10/25/08 01:08 PM
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Call your doctor, I don't thinks it should not be looked at
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Warfarin (also known under the brand names Coumadin, Jantoven, Marevan, and Waran) is an anticoagulant. It was initially marketed as a pesticide against rats and mice, and is still popular for this purpose, although more potent poisons such as brodifacoum have since been developed.
Warfarin is a teratogen, causing deformations of the face (depressed nasal bridge) and bones (stippled epiphyses), neonatal seizures, and spontaneous abortion The only common side effect of warfarin is hemorrhage (bleeding). The risk of severe bleeding is small but definite (1–2% annually) and any benefit needs to outweigh this risk when warfarin is considered as a therapeutic measure. Risk of bleeding is augmented if the INR is out of range (due to accidental or deliberate overdose or due to interactions), and may cause hemoptysis (coughing up blood), excessive bruising, bleeding from nose or gums, or blood in urine or stool. Another rare complication that may occur early during warfarin treatment (usually within 3 to 8 weeks) is purple toe syndrome. This condition is thought to result from small deposits of cholesterol breaking loose and flowing into the blood vessels in the skin of the feet, which causes a blueish purple color and may be painful. It is typically thought to affect the big toe, but it affects other parts of the feet as well, including the bottom of the foot (plantar surface). The occurrence of purple toe syndrome may require discontinuation of warfarin. -wiki |
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You really need to seek medical attention. My grandma was on Coumadin for a while and they had to take her off of it. Can't remember why. But definitely you need to seek out medical attention.
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Warfarin (also known under the brand names Coumadin, Jantoven, Marevan, and Waran) is an anticoagulant. It was initially marketed as a pesticide against rats and mice, and is still popular for this purpose, although more potent poisons such as brodifacoum have since been developed. Warfarin is a teratogen, causing deformations of the face (depressed nasal bridge) and bones (stippled epiphyses), neonatal seizures, and spontaneous abortion The only common side effect of warfarin is hemorrhage (bleeding). The risk of severe bleeding is small but definite (1–2% annually) and any benefit needs to outweigh this risk when warfarin is considered as a therapeutic measure. Risk of bleeding is augmented if the INR is out of range (due to accidental or deliberate overdose or due to interactions), and may cause hemoptysis (coughing up blood), excessive bruising, bleeding from nose or gums, or blood in urine or stool. Another rare complication that may occur early during warfarin treatment (usually within 3 to 8 weeks) is purple toe syndrome. This condition is thought to result from small deposits of cholesterol breaking loose and flowing into the blood vessels in the skin of the feet, which causes a blueish purple color and may be painful. It is typically thought to affect the big toe, but it affects other parts of the feet as well, including the bottom of the foot (plantar surface). The occurrence of purple toe syndrome may require discontinuation of warfarin. -wiki yea i know about the small deposits as i have them in my legs.. im just wondering more about my arm and did the flu shot interfer with that |
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this is what i found... so i guess i will call my doc and let him know
On occasion, instead of going away, the area of a bruise will become firm and may actually start increasing in size. It may also continue to be painful. There are two major causes for this. First, if a large collection of blood is formed under the skin or in the muscle, instead of trying to clean up the area, the body may wall the blood off causing what is called a hematoma. A hematoma is nothing more than a small pool of blood that is walled off. This may need to be drained by your health-care practitioner |
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what i think happened is that your blood got too thin (which is what caused the whole thing)
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DOCTOR!
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I agree, seek medical attention.
Swelling, pain and bruising around an injection site can be normal at times, but given your medical condition - I say, be safe vs. sorry. Also, just a sidenote...if you bruise or swell easily, perhaps you can use a homeopathic ointment called Arnica. That stuff is great - it helps the body to reabsorb the blood quickly and reduces swelling and bruising in half. 
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I agree, seek medical attention. Swelling, pain and bruising around an injection site can be normal at times, but given your medical condition - I say, be safe vs. sorry. Also, just a sidenote...if you bruise or swell easily, perhaps you can use a homeopathic ointment called Arnica. That stuff is great - it helps the body to reabsorb the blood quickly and reduces swelling and bruising in half. Good advice. 
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Edited by
Riding_Dubz
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Sat 10/25/08 01:57 PM
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Yo im not tryin to knock you in anyway,
but go to the hospital, or call 911, but post about it on here 
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Flu shot in and of itself should not cause pain for more than half a day in most cases. It sounds like you have a complication from the injection and I wouldn't mess around about going back to the doctor even though I am pretty sure you are tired of seeing doctors. ^5 for you taking the flu shot however with fragile health you may well have saved your own life. Flu is a serious thing and kills otherwise healthy people every year so especially those who have chronic health issues need to take them. Hang in there and hope they can fix you up pronto.
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Yo im not tryin to knock you in anyway, but go to the hospital, or call 911, but post about it on here I respectfully disagree. People who live with chronic health issues can learn a lot from asking questions from groups they belong to. It can feel very lonely when you are the only one you know with a condition and it gives you perspective, often great tips or resources that you do not have on your own. It is easy to feel like you just can't stand going to the doctor one more time with out the gentle nudgeing of friends who care about you. |
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 w/e |
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I agree, seek medical attention. Swelling, pain and bruising around an injection site can be normal at times, but given your medical condition - I say, be safe vs. sorry. Also, just a sidenote...if you bruise or swell easily, perhaps you can use a homeopathic ointment called Arnica. That stuff is great - it helps the body to reabsorb the blood quickly and reduces swelling and bruising in half. Arnica works great for that! But, like you said, she should go to the doctor for this AND use the Arnica. |
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I was gonna say ... hell YA! We ALL can.
But you may not want the uneducated answers we give 
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Sounds like a hematoma, any needle can cause it. Try a hot compress if the nurse says to, but call someone!
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I was gonna say ... hell YA! We ALL can. But you may not want the uneducated answers we give You have a point there; always consider your source in any inquirey. That doesn't make Doctor's God however. If you feel the answers they give you don't make sense then keep looking for answers. It took me 30 years to get and accurate diagnosis. Listen to your instincts and your body. If it hurts something isn't right. |
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I do believe that many times that there is pain and swelling on an injection site it is because the person giving the injection doesn't take the time to give it properly. I don't necessarily think it is malicious because we are letting insurance companies press medical care givers to rush us through because we want cheaper costs. Case in point. Some people are not good candidates for injections but rarely do some medications have alternate methods of infusion. Trying to get exception to policies is like pulling teeth in the one size is suppose to fit all system.
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