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all i can say is you guys dont fix computers.
Spider as for you, do some research.. |
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Look here, many will diagree, however through my experience i have seen alot of misconceptions.... 1) YOU CANNOT get a virus from roaming websites... You must install somthing for it to be on your computer... simply going to a site will not give u a virus... Not true, some sites contain scripts that can do things to your computer such as instruct it to download and run applications - an application (such as a virus), does not need to ask permission to install especially as most people tend to run their computers under admin accounts. Then there are things like port scans and attacks based on known security flaws that can instruct the computer to download and execute applications. 2)If your computer is running slow most likely a virus is not doing this... GASP! I know, very few in fact do somthing close to this. Most of the time you people dont read what your installing, and add it to your quick launch, (bottom of the right screen) If more than 5-6 icons are there when you open windows id consider this as being an option, not paying 100 for someone from bestbuy to run a msconfig... OR uninstall a couple programs from your add/remove programs this will take care of those Quick launch, well some.. Quick launch is not the correct place to look, the system tray is, quick launch is just a short cut to apps, system tray is a partial list of the programs that are running on your machine. 3) Most of you dont need an anti-virus software... GASP! yes i know, Anti-virus software/firewalls ect. these programs were actually originally designed for businesses... think about if you were a hacker... what would you hack... residents pcs? Try again. Definitely they will hack private PCs. They might not make any money directly from them but they can use them to create zombie networks and co-ordinate DDOS attacks which they CAN and DO make money from. 4) all software is free. Never pay for spy-ware,antivirus firewall programs your wasting you money, they all do the same thing, the only thing about the software that actually costs money is it has more features which slow your pc down.... =\ Not all software is free. There are free versions and there are versions you pay for. The free ones may, in principle, do the same thing but you can bet your ass that the ones you pay for are better tested and better supported. 5) And yes stop saying your pc is slow because of a virus, thats getting annoying =) Sadly in most peoples cases they are probably right as they don't tend to keep their software up to date (latest security patches, etc.). Want to keep your computer free of a virus and/or slowdowns? Don't install anything and don't connect it to the web. talldub, you make me happy. I'm glad there are SOME intelligent people out there. |
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all i can say is you guys dont fix computers. Spider as for you, do some research.. I do, well off and on...but I did it for a year permanently, virus, adware, spyware, rootkits, hackers...you name it I dealt with it, and you are in fact wrong. You can get a virus even if you click the X or 'Don't install', most virus's (typically adware) is programmed to install without expressive permission. If your PC is running slow it can be a number of things, could be background programs (itunes, etc.) which eat up virtual memory while running thus causing your PC to run slow (check your task manager for proof, the processes tab will tell what is eating up the CPU and performance will show you how much it is degrading your PC). You're right, no one needs an anti-virus (I don't have one) but this is dependent on one's knowledge of a PC and where not to go on the internet so it is helpful to your typical casual PC user. No software is free, some programs were created out of Dos which are freeware specifically Smitfraudfix, Combofix, and alike programs that target a specific virus/rootkit but to get all around protection you can get a free program or a paid program (honestly there isn't much difference between the two). |
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all i can say is you guys dont fix computers. Spider as for you, do some research.. Okay, I did some research. http://www.itsecurity.com/features/do-you-need-av-anymore-050808/ Since XP systems sit squarely in virus creators' crosshairs and lack Vista's powerful system-protection capabilities, discontinuing the use of add-on anti-virus software would be a foolish and reckless move for most users. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2159352,00.asp Antivirus programs, therefore, are still absolutely necessary. Until a user learns enough not to open attachments or peruse other avenues that often lead to infection, he or she still needs an antivirus shield humming along in the background at all times. Once a user learns good enough habits to avoid infection without antivirus software, UAC just might be overkill. I work as a programmer for a company. Part of my JOB is investigating why a client's applications or workstation aren't working properly. Maybe computers are a hobby for you, but it's what I do for a living. Your advice was terrible, no question about it. |
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I don't repair them, I fix them. I am an anti-hacker, that means I get hired to hack into corporate nets, find security leaks, and harden everything.
I did not mean to attack anyone, just to explain that things run on the pc when we visit a web page. The proof is that you can see their web page on the local pc. They have to download their 'stuff' in order for us to see their pages, period. And if they are putting 'stuff' on our pc, then they are putting 'stuff' on our pc, period. It doesn't matter if they use scripts, buffer overflows, or whatever. It is not hard to be malicious if that is the goal. It is much harder to harden the pc against all comers. That's my story and I'm stickN to it. |
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Edited by
sail2awe
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Wed 10/15/08 05:57 AM
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I might add too, that even Google is giving notifications about links to websites that auto load spyware and other wares onto the computer before it allows them to be visited from the search engines site.
All one need do is look in there offline files and temporary files to see just how much stuff gets downloaded when a page is visited. And that is just the obvious stuff. Does not even take into account php injections into hidden and locked files, and that's just for starters. Code can easily be injected into photos and links as well. Additionally, once inside the local pc, on the way out the program makes a call to the firewall to say, see you when I get back, and the firewall will let it back in along with all it's friends. To think someone cannot write some code that will install in the background is just being gullible. So be careful out there people. Personally, I don't even hover my cursor over links when on a page, I go around them. I would urge each and every one of you to try that leaktest tool to see if your pc is just leaking out anything to anywhere that some program might call. Most will be surprised at bad their pc leaks data flow, allows programs to use other programs to 'phone home' and download stuff. |
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