http://www.beaueden.com/MC-Cain--Palin.jpg

I have listened to Obama's speeches and read some of his campaign literature. As far as I can tell it is just the same political campaign fluff. The thing that irritates me is that he says that he is the agent of change but then....fluff - what real change? how is he going to do it? he says he's going to bring the parties together. how? what has he done of a bi-partisan nature? he is even more of a polarizing figure now than Clinton! it is an insult for him to misrepresent himself like this. it inspires distrust rather than confidence!

his attacks on McCain are just as slimy and dishonest as the stuff being put out by McCain. his biggest strategy is to try to call McCain "Bush" so much that voters somehow magically are supposed to think McCain is Bush? WTH?!

this is not intelligent. this does not show any ability to build consensus. this is not the kind of leadership i can easily believe in. McCain has issues...i don't relish the thought of him in the White House either. But Obama has lost my respect also PLUS he has no experience.

i beware pretty promises especially when there is no evidence that they are in any way achievable. Obama is patently patina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3F18zVblJ8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONM7148cTyc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvbhvP_N3Vw

OK so there are just three youtube videos explaining what change means.

to go to your other points. His ability to bring parties together is not fluff. what he is saying is that you may not agree with him on all issues but he is willing to compromise some of his own stances to accomplish the greater good. example: off shore drilling. he opposes it but has said he is willing to include it in a bill that has a large focus on developing alternative energy. That is how he will bring them together.

You say he is more polarizing than Clinton but that is not something he has done. He is polarizing because that is how elections work. McCain is just as polarizing. The only way to not be polarizing during an election is to not run.

His attacks on McCain have all been substantive. McCains have been attacks on Obamas charachter and a lot of them flat lies and distortions. You can go to Factcheck.org for non-partisan information about this.

McCain is very similar to bush when he votes with bush over 90% of the time and has no difference with bush on any policy foriegn or domestic.

This shows an ability to build consensus because 80% of the american people think Bush is doing a poor job and there you Have McCain agreeing with Bush 90% of the time. lol the consensus part is a stretch but still 90%??? Doesn't sound like a maverick to me.

i don't know what promises you think Obama has made are petty and/or unachievable but i can say that all the promises made by either McCain or Obama are just promises and we wont know what will happen until 4 years from now and we re-evaluate what they really did vs what they promised to do. even their promises have to pass through the house and the senate so not everything they promise can happen regardless. that is how our nation works.

i do encourage you to check out the youtube videos and we can talk about them

I just have to say this. See, my Dad cracks me up.

I just took my child to our church's kid's camp retreat. I told one of the parents that I planned on watching the debate tonite. She smiled and was happy McCain was doing it. She is a Sunday school teacher. I told her that I was voting for Obama.

I told my Dad about it. He said that if he was going to vote for McCain, he would be too embarrassed to tell anybody right.
My Dad is voting for Obama.

Dad's. Don't ya just love them?

My mother has been canceling out my fathers vote for many years now.

She let's him dominate every political discussion then out she goes to vote for the opposite party.

It's sad and funny.

My Grandma did that to my Grandpa.

Speaking of Gov. Palin, where was she after the debate? Joe Biden was speaking to all the networks on behalf of Obama-Biden after the debate. Where was Sarah Palin? Muzzled perhaps?

Maybe she was stuck watching with D!ck Cheney from an undisclosed location...

my guess ?...probably sipping some wine with Henry Kissinger...over a few laughs...

Yeah, anything's possible, but Henry didn't look to excited during Palin's photo-op with him. I think he prefers a level of conversation she's not at.

Speaking of Uncle Henry, it seems Obama was right about him last night...

WASHINGTON, Sept. 16 (UPI) -- Former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger says the United States should begin direct negotiations with Iran over its nuclear enrichment program.

Kissinger, speaking Monday at George Washington University along with four other former U.S. State Department secretaries, said the next president should initiate high-level discussions with Iran "without conditions," ABC News reported.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/16/Kissinger_Open_direct_Iran_talks/UPI-46971221579660/

My parents are voting for McCain..

My parents are NOT.

I'm still trying to recoup my I.Q. points after watching the debates and Palins Katie Couric interview.

I would have gotten better politicial solutions from watching a Frank Zappa interview.

I let my child read the Couric interview on the computer. My child said, "What does that have to do with the question? It makes no sense."

She talks about the bridge to nowhere, but maybe she needs to focus on sentences that go nowhere.

They do! I do wonder why she had such a difficult focusing.
Attention deficit? Or not knowing the answers? Or....

Or.... that was her sad attempt to sidestep a direct answer.

http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/27/crazy-outtake-from-katie-courics-interview-with-sarah-palin/


Oh, and before any of the dumb crap starts, this comes from The Agitator-Radley Balkos site, Radley is a Commentator for none other than Good ole Fox news.


LOL!

Just because I'm an equal opportunity mocker and so is The Agitator!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBghD0XBN5M

More Palin babble... John McCain's lack of judgment in selecting this utterly unqualified woman makes him unqualified for the office he seeks.

"COURIC: Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families who are struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries; allow them to spend more and put more money into the economy instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN: That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health-care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the—it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health-care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. And trade, we've got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing. But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we've got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that."