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I keep wondering WHAT BOOK ARE YOU ALL READING. I had to take some time
to try to figure how you came to believe in the things some of you believe. OK Angels, Genesis - who explained these texts to you? I have spent a couple days researching. One of the best articles I have found (shortest too) I will attach in the following. There are many such articles, written by Christian Church authorities, based on the study of the verses within the historical scope of their original language and interpreted based on the social/civil definitions of these words at the point in histsory that the would apply. PLEASE read and comment. |
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Does the Book of Genesis say Women had SEX with Angels?
Did such SEX produce GIANTS known as Nephilim? Print This Page Print Page There has been much speculation about the meaning of the first few verses of Genesis Chapter 6. Some teach that fallen angels took on the form of flesh and had sexual relations with women producing a race of giants called the Nephilim. Is this TRUE?? Genesis 6 verses 1 and 2 state: "Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose." Commentary: We find there that the "sons of God" took wives from the "daughters of men." The important question here is, who are the "sons of God?" Are they demons, fallen angels taking the form of flesh? Would God call evil, fallen spirits "sons of God?" Notice also that these sons of God "chose" for "themselves" certain "daughters of men." Verse 3, "Then the Lord said, 'My spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty (120) years.' " Commentary: We see here that because the "sons of God" took for themselves the "daughters of men" God limited man's days to 120 years and said "My spirit shall not strive with man forever." Men had lived to be much older prior to this judgment, notice also, the judgment had to do with God's spirit abiding in man. In the previous chapter we find that Methuselah lived to be 969 years old. We must ask the question, "if the sons of God were fallen angels, why was the judgment against "man?" Romans 8 tells us twice that only those who possess the indwelling of the holy spirit are the "sons of God." Although the holy spirit was poured out on Pentecost in 31 A.D. , there have always been faithful men and women whom God had given His spirit to. In Psalm 51 we find King David praying that God would not take His holy spirit from him. Jesus called Abel righteous ( Matthew 23:35). In Genesis 5 we find that Enoch "walked with God" and God took him. Notice also the time line of the great cloud of witnesses so eloquently spoken of in Hebrews 11, almost all lived prior to the coming of Christ. Jesus told His disciples "Blessed are those who have not seen yet have believed." I believe He was referring to the faithful who lived before He came as the Savior. These Faithful servants could not look back to Calvary as we can, but had to look forward to the cross and believe that God would someday redeem them from their sins. Let us consider for a moment that the "sons of God" in Genesis 6:2 were faithful men whom God had given the holy spirit to. Men who were not only born of men but born again of God,- marrying worldly women born only of men. Now let's see how the passage begins to shape up. The Hebrew word translated as "strive" here literally means "rule in." Some ancient versions read "abide in" or "in his going astray he is flesh." The word "nevertheless" in verse 3 can mean "therefore" in Hebrew as well. Putting this together let me paraphrase,- When the faithful sons of God,- righteous men possessing the holy spirit, saw that the women of the world were beautiful, they lusted after them, taking them as their wives, thus becoming "unequally yoked" together with unbelievers. (1 Corinthians 7) They "chose" for "themselves" rather than letting God provide for them. In this they were quenching the spirit within them, which is why God said "My spirit shall not "strive", "rule in" or "abide in" man forever, for "in his going astray he is flesh," therefore I will limit his years on earth to 120. Notice that God is saying that His spirit could not stay in those who lusted after the flesh. This means that there were men who had the holy spirit abiding in them but fell away when they set their eyes and hearts on the flesh, in this case, women who were not born of the spirit. Verse 4 - 6, "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, . . ., when the sons of God came into the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart." Commentary: "Nephilim" here is certainly the "mighty men,"- "men of renown." The Nephilim were a result of the unholy union of the sons of God with the daughters of men. Nephilim is taken from "Napal" meaning "to fall." But who are these who fell? Was it angels who had become demons at Lucifer's rebellion, or was it faithful men who fell away from God by going after fleshly desires? Notice that God said that He "saw that the wickedness of man was great." That "every intent" of man's heart was evil. And that God was even sorry that He had made man. Again, it is man whom God holds to blame. And it was to men that God's judgment was pronounced against. The same men who were once called the "sons of God." Written by: Larry Lasiter (Originally titled Genesis 6 Study: Who are the Nephilim?) |
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Redy, you have done your homework on this subject,very commendable.This
is one of my favorite subjects,because it is very interesting,and not really completely clear. I have never really heard anyone put that scripture in that particular way before......very interesting. I am going to have to reread some things and get them fresh in my mind again to respond properly. But I will say this...try reading the book of Jude and see if you can see any paralell there. |
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I was given a true gift from god. He calls me mommy
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Barbie, that is a gift and the first time I smiled all day. Thanks
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Wheezer, yea thanks, I'll check it out. I've been trying to find info
on every area in the Bible where Angels are mentioned. It's just that we get so much MISinformation through movies, TV and the like, that I think it all get jumbled up for poeple. That was the reason I started this topic. I'll get back to it too. |
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lets see.. mabe a bible study.... all angels are male.... there are so
many of them there are layers of them on the planet..... thats all i got. |
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giant sucking sound of the truth being flushed..
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