I thought this would be a great topic of discussion.




Are we slaves by choice?

Is freedom the ultimate goal?

What is required to be truly free in body mind and spirit?

What is surrender?

Who are we to surrender to?

Buddhism is a good choice

yeah right tell the feds that! Rather be a slave...

I have some experience with surrender.

I was always apposed to it, but when I learned what it was, it was a surrender to the idea of a higher power.

Later I realized that the higher power was my own higher self.

Now that was someone I could really trust.

The struggle we have is a struggle with the little self. It is the child who screams, "I want to do it myself!"

The higher self knows this. It lets you do it yourself. But if you get into trouble, real trouble, and you surrender your control, the higher self will step in and deliver you from your predicament.

This I have experienced and this is what I understand surrender to be.

I am non-Christian, but very spiritual.

JB

Everyone is a slave to the society that they live in. You live where you live and behave the way you behave, all because of society dictates. Choice and practice of religion is but a small freedom that we do have, yet that small freedom is being eroded by humanists who demand the slavery of common sense over faith.

What is wrong with common sense? Where do "humanists" demand the slavery of common sense over faith?

I don't understand your statement. Please explain.

Common sense is contrary to faith with fw exceptions. Beliefs of a person with faith defy common sense.

How do humanists demand common sense over faith? Is creationism allowed to be taught in public schools. No, rather evolution and the "Big Bang" theory are all that is taught exslaving and dictating thought, hence, the slavery of common sense. The slavery of common sense and humanism limit our potentional and dimensions as human beings.

Personally I was never taught about the Big Bang Theory or evolution in school, so I can't really relate to that.

If people knew HOW creationism really worked on the quantum level, then I would be all for the teaching of it in schools.

Even if they had some sort of proof of a creator or how creation works and had a decent theory, I would say, teach it in schools.

But the don't.

That is religion and it is all admittedly faith based, it is not science or fact. You can't teach faith based beliefs in schools. There are too many than conflict anyway.

Now I am not saying that all science is completely correct either, and it changes as we learn more.

Personally I believe in the creative techniques and I have my own theory of how this universe is created. It is not what is written in the Bible either. Like the Bible story, it can't be proven either, so I don't expect or demand that they teach it in schools.

JB

JB, I agree with you!

To me, the soul is unhappy when it is in bondage. To be in bondage is to be kept from following its joy or bliss for what ever reason.

A person is in bondage to survival when they have to work two jobs just to get the house payment and the car payments and food on the table.

A person I knew had a nice big house, three or four cars including two Mercedes. He lived in a nice neighborhood, had children, and worked as a police officer and a security guard just to make payments on the things he never had time to enjoy.

His wife worked at a bank. Both of them struggled to keep up with the demands of the neighborhood and their friends but neither of them had any time for family or vacation or enjoyment of their home and all their material things.

They were pretending to be richer than they really were. Loss of one of their incomes would have found them in dire straits.

This is bondage to material things. These people had no life except for their jobs which they did not particularly enjoy. Their jobs was their life.

How can you free yourself from bondage of this kind? Live within your means and stop trying to impress the neighbors. Ask yourself what is most important, that new car or some free time with your family?

JB