My purpose here is not to speak ill of Bill O'Reilly, who has many
respectable qualities and admirable activities. Its to advocate greater
skepticism in our media consumption.

In another thread, in was suggested that "Bill O'Reilly is a liar."
I'm thinking, *of course* O'Reilly says deceptive and misleading things.
He's a pundit! Right-wing pundit, left-wing pundit, it doesn't matter.
Reality doesn't line up with any one 'political view', so a successful
pundit *must* say some deceptive and misleading things. Its your job.

Surprisingly, some conservatives actually appear (?) to think O'Reilly
provides fair and honest reporting.

Less surprising, no liberals would step up to the plate and demonstrate
O'Reilly's dishonesty.

So how about it you hippie pinko Lefties??? Can you show us some
specific examples of O'Reilly saying dishonest or misleading things on
the air? Stay focused - please refrain from O'Reilly bashing, just cite
some facts.

Here's a hint: If you google "false statements" with "bill o'reilly" you
will get over 31,000 hits.

A brief skim suggests these are blatantly 'Anti-O'Reilly'. A good place
to find evidence of O'Reilly's (alleged) dishonesty?

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/barrett_oreilly_hammers_latest_talking_points.htm

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2988

http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/people/billoreilly

Good Morning Massage,

It is sort of like I said on the other thread. Find one that you can
agree with MOSTLY. If the subject is politics, it is all OPINION, not
news. I did look and read all the links you provided and had to laugh
(albiet NOT at you and what you found, I am sure there is much more.)

When a personality is highly successful (i.e. popular), they have many
detractors and enemies.

It is a popularity contest and popularity is ALL it is. Sure Bill
O'Reilly leans so far right that left almost ceases to exist BUT many
find him highly entertaining. Of course, I don't agree with everything
he says but love the way he says it... LOL. I fall so far outside of
every scale on the politics gauge that no one would believe it, if they
saw it!

Being somewhat of a news junkie and watching lots of the stuff, I can
form opinions on what is presented, do my own research and finally come
to some conclusion on any given subject. If you don't get at least
three views nowadays you are shooting yourself in the foot. Because
every anchorman or(national or not)news program puts their own "spin" on
news stories.

Some folks LOOK for tidbits to base their beliefs on so they can be
right in their own minds. (I don't mean YOU, I mean anyone, everyone)
and it behooves us to be on the watch.

But how many will actually take your suggestion and read all the links?
I bet you will be able to count them (us)on one hand.

Have a great Tuesday dude!

Great post!!!

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Good Morning Funlover - I went to the site you noted and read one
particular article about John Yoo. Very GOOD reporting albiet there is
opinion interjected to make the report more of a story. THAT is OK as
the reporter's opinions were a part of what the general public saw at
that time, presented by the general media.

Good reporting and a great site to add to my "favorites." I will be
visiting it often to read more articles.

Thanks!

Thanks for your comments Verb!

Gardenforge, if you read this, could you say something mildly insulting
to liberals - enough to motivate a response, but not enough to start the
O'Reilly bashing?

Oh, I chose those three links practically at random. Google provides
31,000 for people who really want to investigate.

conspiracy planet . com , The alternative news & history network , Your
antidote to media cartel propaganda

A very long read but see what Bill did here:

http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=1310

Thank you again funlover as I found this at the other site by searching
for "Bill O'Reilly" at that site. Some good and some bad about Bill but
this is something I am truly interested in.

Do you know if there are more recent articles on the "hate bill" pushed
by Ted Kennedy? I remember hearing about it but don't remember when...
?????

Talk about the dems wanting to restrict FREE SPEECH!! Could it get any
worse than THAT????

Thanks again guys.

GREAT INFORMATIVE POSTS!

So it's not okay to bash O'Reilly, but it's okay to bash hippie pinko
Lefties?

Look here, Stretch. There's nothing wrong with being a Lefty. I happen
to be one, and I got A's in most every class in school. There are many
famous left-handed people, and very intelligent and creative ones, to
boot.

And remember this the next time you go bashing us Southpaws:

Only left-handed people are in their right minds.

(hehe... )

I SAY LET WHO EVER BASH WHO EVER AND WHEN ITS ALL SAID AN DONE ILL STILL
BE HERE LAUGHING AT THEM LIKE A BUNCH OF CRAZY PEOPLE AN ILL TURN TO
SOMEONE THATS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO GO AROUND BASHING JUST TO BE BASHING,
BOTTOM LINE IS THE MEDIA DONT KNOW CRAP BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWISTED SO
MANY WAYS THAT THEY FORGOT WICH WAY IT WAS TO BEGIN WITH. THESE
POLITICAL PARTIES THEY JUST OUT FOR THEM SELF I DONT THINK THEY REALLY
CARE ABOUT THE AMARICAN PEOPLE I THINK THEY JUST CARE ABOUT YOUR VOTE.
SO WHAT DO YOU YOU DO THE BEST YOU CAN FOR WHAT U THINK IS RIGHT FOR U
CAUSE CANT DEPEND ON ANYONE ELSE THERE TO BUSY BASHING EACH OTHER.

I SAY LET WHO EVER BASH WHO EVER AND WHEN ITS ALL SAID AN DONE ILL STILL
BE HERE LAUGHING AT THEM LIKE A BUNCH OF CRAZY PEOPLE AN ILL TURN TO
SOMEONE THATS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO GO AROUND BASHING JUST TO BE BASHING,
BOTTOM LINE IS THE MEDIA DONT KNOW CRAP BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWISTED SO
MANY WAYS THAT THEY FORGOT WICH WAY IT WAS TO BEGIN WITH. THESE
POLITICAL PARTIES THEY JUST OUT FOR THEM SELF I DONT THINK THEY REALLY
CARE ABOUT THE AMARICAN PEOPLE I THINK THEY JUST CARE ABOUT YOUR VOTE.
SO WHAT DO YOU YOU DO THE BEST YOU CAN FOR WHAT U THINK IS RIGHT FOR U
CAUSE CANT DEPEND ON ANYONE ELSE THERE TO BUSY BASHING EACH OTHER.

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Jean, I know you are joking, but for others: By "hippie pinko Lefties"
i was poking fun at the people who lump all liberals into a derogatory
labeled category like that. It was gentle sarcasm.

The news media is obviously leaning left, wake up people, we are loosing
our freedom, better go get your prayer rugs,
and get ready to face towards mecca.
SAVAGE FOR PRESIDENT 08.....

Amen to that vocaldawg.

Darn Massagetrade I was busy last week and I missed this thread. But me
insult a liberal, surely you jest I didn't think they were smart
enough to be insulted most of my barbs go right over their heads. I
would like to see one of them string more than 3 words into an
intelligent sentence and answer the questions Verb asked though.

how's that good enough

i got real good one he brings **** morris on his show to talk about the
the clintons. this is same man who got fired by clintons for telling
secrets to a call girl now tell me hows thats far

the question was did O'Riely lie and if so document it, not who did
Morris sleep with, answer the question. Also what was your rank and
MOS

and my answer oreilly is a lier. as far as i no you could be a crime
lord. so not going to happen next subject.

once again you have failed to adress the question, you think if you
chant the slogan O'Riely is a liar often enough it becomes fact. The
question was document what you say. Do that if you can. The other
question you continually evade is what did you do in the army and what
was your rank. these are not difficult questions and tell nothing about
yourself if you actually were in the army. Why do you constantly evade
the answer if you have nothing to hide?