Note to self: get bigger hat, current hat does not hold enough tinfoil
to protect me from all the nutty conspiracy throries flying around.

you mean like all these "tin hatters"

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/



you obviously did not take the time to view this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMWn-bQYfSc


I wonder what your scared to find.

Im not forge, but for one it says youtube,,,ding, ding, I know this to
not be an accurate reliable site, therefore I dont waste my time reading
it.. Oh thats a lie, I like a laugh every now and then. Second, why
waste time on such a rediculous theory. It would take one hell of a
conspiracy to involve that many ppl, and expect they could remain silent
for this long. Do you ppl seriosly believe this crap? Really I thought
it was a joke...

I dont like George Bush, but I have not lost the function of my brain,
nor lost track of reality.. Do they let you people vote?

ohhh, you wont watch a video, ok, then how about this.



Why I think 9/11 Was An Inside Job

Here are just a few of the reasons I believe 9/11 was an inside job,
primarily masterminded by **** Cheney with the complicity of George W.
Bush. I have ordered them with most important first. This is just a
summary. I explore these points in detail later with backup.

No steel frame buildings had ever before in history collapsed either
from fires or planes hitting them. They are designed to withstand those
hazards. On 9/11 three of them fell, and fell perfectly straight down.
Why do you think demolition experts spend weeks planting charges and
timing the explosions with millisecond precision? To make sure the
buildings implode and fall straight down, just as the three WTC towers
did. That perfection does not happen by accident. Further, the timing of
the falls are indicative of linear controlled demolitions, not
accelerating natural gravitational collapse. An engineering failure of
this magnitude would normally demand an exhaustive study as to the
mechanism of failure to ensure it never happened again, but all the
evidence was quickly whisked away and melted down thus ensuring the
cause was never discovered.

The 1/3 sized wheels, turbofan and diffuser found at the Pentagon crash
are not part of a 757, but of a much smaller military aircraft the A-3
drone.

Two civilian defense contractor employees — told to remain silent — say
other workers quietly retro-fitted missile and remote control systems
onto A-3 jets at Colorado public airport prior to September 11.

Bush claims a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon then vaporised, and that is
why there was no wreckage, but that is utterly impossible. The titanium
used in the 12 tons of engines does not even melt at temperatures
reached by mixing jet fuel and pure oxygen much less vaporise. Think
about it. Titanium was chosen for the engines because it would not even
weaken when subjected to an optimum mixture of jet fuel and air for
hours on end during ordinary flight. Further, there were not even broken
windows where the engines purportedly hit the Pentagon. And to top it
off, photos show no sign of a fuel fire like the ones hitting the two
towers. So, according to Bush, not only did the most of the plane
vanish, a mysterious shrinking ray made the wheels and turbofans shrink
to 1/3 the normal diameter and change into a type used by A-3 military
drones. Give me a break! How gullible do you think I am Mr. Bush? Bush
is peddling an utterly preposterous lie. It amazing he got away with it
so long.

The hole in the side of the Pentagon is far too small for Boeing 757
flight 77 to pass through. The wingspan is 124 feet with a fuselage
diameter of 13 feet. It is 44 feet from ground to the top of the tail.
There was almost no debris, no bodies, no blood, no body parts, no
baggage, no wreckage typical of a 757 plane crash, and of course no
sheared off wings. Further there was no fire or smoke damage similar to
the other two crashes. There should have been.

The plane had a similar load of fuel. In contrast, after the shuttle
disaster, it was possible to find pieces of the seven astronauts' bodies
spread over hundreds of square miles. Some of the rubble appears to
belong to a small Global Hawk drone (44 feet long by 15 feet high)
including the tiny engine, including a tiny turbofan engine. The
Pentagon blatantly lied in its story published by the Washington Post,
saying the hole in the Pentagon was five stories high and 200 feet wide.
Photos show it is no bigger than 18 feet in diameter. To fit in that
tiny hole the wings had to have been sheared off. Where are the wings?
Further the Pentagon crash did not show up seismically, because the
object that hit was too light. Recall your high school physics. We know
object that hit the Pentagon was travelling at 400 mph.

mass = energy / velocity2

The low energy of the hit means the object had to have considerably
lower mass than a 757. The other two other hits, including another 757,
registered seismically. Whatever hit the Pentagon was not nearly heavy
enough to be a 757 as the Bush conspiracy theory claims. This is so
patently obvious, Bush must have know that all along, but decided to
lie.

There were no Arabs aboard flight 77 as claimed by Bush. Without Arabs,
you have no hijackers. Without a highjack, why would the three American
pilots all suicide unless Bush had threatened their families? The only
other explanation is the planes were flown by wire. In other words,
either way, 9/11 was an inside job.

The key to Bush's conspiracy theory, the Arab highjacking, is a total
fabrication. His whole lie comes unravelled just from the passenger and
autopsy lists alone.

Stanley Hilton, Bob Dole's advisor and lead attorney in the 9/11 victims
case says he has both documentary evidence and sworn testimony that
Cheny and Bush ordered the 9/11 attack.

All of Bush's cabinet met with Mahmoud, the bankroller of 9/11, in the
week prior to 9/11.
No planes scrambled to intercept the hijackers. This is standard
procedure. Normally a plane would be in the air within four minutes.
Just prior to 9/11 Cheney inserted himself in the highjack command loop.
He is the one who ordered them to stand down.

There were all manner of war games in progress on 9/11 some simulating a
9/11 style attack. This deflected most of the airforce out west. It
further confused air traffic controllers who had to deal with insertions
(fake planes for the war games on their radars).

No body was really sure if the attacks were real or part of the game. No
cave-dwelling terrorists could have arranged so convenient a
distraction. The Pentagon publicly admitted this many times, including
when Representative Cynthia McKinney grilled Donald Rumsfeld on C-Span
2005-03-24. transcript.

While every one else was in lockdown on 9/11, Bush got the FBI to
arrange private jets to collect the bin Laden family and take them
safely out of the USA without interrogation. At that point airspace had
been reopened to commercial flights but not private flights.


Kevin R. Ryan, Site Manager, Environmental Health Laboratories, for
Underwriter Labs, wrote that the fires in the World Trade buildings were
not nearly hot enough to cause the UL-rated steel to fail.

CNN's reporter, Jamie McIntyre, on the scene announced that no plane hit
the Pentagon.
Rudy Giuliani pre-announced the hit on the Pentagon. How did he know it
would happen?
Rudy Giuliani announced a hit on the Sears tower. This part of the
conspiracy was foiled, but apparently nobody told him. He announced it,
as it was planned.


Rudy Guiliani gave a series of extremely polished speeches on 9/11. How
did he find time to rehearse?


All three World Trade Towers fell faster over the first half of the
collapse than physics allows by free fall. That meant they had to have
an assist, e.g. an explosive push from pre-planted demolition charges,
not just gravity pulling them down. The maximum collapse for free fall
is computed by
distance = ½ g t²
where g is the acceleration due to gravity 32 feet per second per
second, and t is time in seconds. In other words, free fall collapse
should start out slowly and accelerate faster and faster for the big
finale.


Why did the terrorists hit the west wing of the Pentagon? That required
an extra complex flight manoeuvre. The west wing was being renovated.
There were no military people there. Why wouldn't terrorists try to kill
the top brass in the east wing?

As he and the Secret Service got word that a second plane had crashed
into the World Trade Center and that three planes had been hijacked,
there could have been no possible doubt in their mind that the United
States was under terrorist attack . . . The most horrendous attack the
United States had ever suffered. And they would have had to assume that
one or more of them were heading toward President Bush himself. and so
upon learning about this, the secret service surely would have whisked
him away immediately.


In fact, one secret service agent on the scene said, "We're out of
here." but obviously he got overruled because president Bush stayed
there. After Andrew Card reported the second crash on the World Trade
Center, the president just nodded as if he understood and said, "we're
going to go ahead with the reading lesson." and he sat there another 15
minutes listening to the children read a story about a pet goat. This
was a photo op and when it was over he lingered around talking to the
children and talking to the teacher.

Bill Sammon, of the Washington Times, wrote a very pro-Bush book, yet he
comments how casual and relaxed the president was given the fact he'd
just learned the country was under attack. He said Bush took his own
sweet time and in fact called him "Our Dawdler in Chief." And then the
president went on national TV, going forward with an interview that had
been planned and announced in advance . . . then they took their
regularly scheduled motorcade back to the airport.

In other words, [Bush and the Secret Service] showed no fear whatsoever
that they would be targeted for attack, which strongly suggests they
knew how many aircraft were being hijacked and what their targets were.

Couldn't it have been that he was trying to project calm in the eye of
the storm, that this was Bush projecting Churchillian resolve in the
face of calamity?

People who want to believe such things can, of course, imagine such
scenarios. But the president in a situation like that does not make the
decisions; the Secret Service team makes the decisions. And the guys in
the Secret Service are trained to be ready for a catastrophe like this
where they make snap decisions and whisk the president to safety
immediately. They would have had an escape route planned; they would
have had contingencies planned — they always do. It is at least not very
plausible to think they would have remained there and endangered the
lives of all the children and teachers at that school in order to exude
that Churchillian confidence.

Consider that the event was publicly scheduled and presumably known to
any terrorists. A school is not a very secure location. Bush was
recklessly endangering the lives of the children he was with unless of
course he knew there was no danger because this was an inside job.

Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were busy discussing the Iraq war in the
immediate aftermath of 9/11. Why were they so unconcerned about 9/11
unless it were an inside job?

“I expected to go back to a round of meetings [on 2001-09-12], examining
what the next attacks could be, what our vulnerabilities were, what we
could do about them in the short term. Instead, I walked into a series
of discussions about Iraq. At first I was incredulous that we were
talking about something other than getting al Qaeda. Then I realised
with an almost sharp physical pain that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were
trying to take advantage of this national tragedy to promote their
agenda about Iraq. Since the beginning of the administration, indeed
well before, they had been pressing for a war with Iraq. My friends in
the Pentagon had been telling me that the word was we would be invading
Iraq sometimes in 2002.”
~ Richard A. Clarke, White House Counter Terrorism Chief, Against All
Enemies


The alleged hijackers on their eve of a supposed religiously-motivated
suicide attack went to a strip bar, drank alcohol and ate pork, all in
public. They left copies of the Qu'ran behind presumably to help
witnesses remember them. Devout Muslims are insanely fanatical about
avoiding pork. They would sooner eat feces. In Saudi Arabia, drinking
alcohol is considered so shameful it could get you killed. That is not
plausible behaviour for religious fanatics about to face judgement day.
bin Laden is a Puritanical religious fanatic.


Seismic evidence shows the two main world trade towers were taken down
by demolition.


A FOX reporter reported the plane that hit South Tower II of the World
Trade Center had a blue logo. UA Flight 175 would have had a black and
red United logo. The US airforce uses a white star on a blue circle.


Bush at first tried to get noted war criminal Henry Kissinger to handle
the 9/11 commission whitewash.


Put options (short selling) for American Airlines and United Airlines
were massively above normal just prior to 9/11. Investors made a killing
off foreknowledge of 9/11. Cheney claims he investigated these investors
but claims no wrongdoing and he refused to say who profited from the
carnage or to explain why he thought that.

Some of the investors would have been people jumping on a bandwagon, not
knowing what was afoot, just presuming insiders must know. But at the
core were people who knew the day of the attack. How did they know?


Bush at first refused to testify at the 9/11 commission, and then agreed
only reluctantly under the condition he and Cheney always appear
together so could keep their stories straight.


As if they had prior knowledge, within four minutes after the Pentagon
crash, FBI agents quickly confiscated:
video tape from a gas station security camera aimed directly at the
exact point of impact while recording the size of the plane and/or
missile.
security camera video film from a nearby Sheraton hotel.
film from a Virginia Transportation Department freeway overpass camera.
They have never released these tapes, nor any of the on-grounds security
camera tapes. What's the big secret?
Rumsfeld accidentally told the truth:
“Here we're talking about plastic knives, and using an American Airlines
flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this
building, and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center.”
~ Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of War, 2001-10-12 Parade Magazine
interview.


Larry Silverstein, the leaseholder of tower 7 confesses on tape he had
the building demolished to prevent the spread of fire. This building was
not hit by any planes. Larry Silverstein look out long term leases on
all the WTC numbered buildings three months before 9/11. He insured them
to the max. He not the building's owners was the beneficiary. He was
able to get double the usual payout by arguing the attacks were
sufficiently separated in time to count as two separate attacks.


Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a
company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade
Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. Bush's
company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade
Center up to the day the buildings fell down.


The following evidence is not available to the public. Either it does
not exist, somebody destroyed it, or Bush is withholding it. In all
three cases Bush is deceiving the public.


Airport lobby video showing alleged hijackers on the targeted flights.


Evidence tying bin Laden to the crime. All we have is Bush's say so. One
day he claimed he had no idea the attack was coming, and the next he was
100% sure who did it.


Recordings of air traffic controller communications with the flights.
These were shredded and thrown into five different garbage cans.
Remains of any of the targeted planes.
Remains of the Twin Towers and Building 7.
Blueprints of the Twin Towers and Building 7.
Black boxes from any of the targeted planes.
Photographs documenting the crime scenes before they were disturbed.


Mike Delbert Vreeland tried to warn the Canadian authorities of the
coming 9/11 attacks. He was incarcerated, so his warnings were ignored.
However, he was correct about the targets and the date of the attack.

Two days after 9/11, Michael Powell, (Colin Powell's son) chair of the
FCC, moved to eliminate the few remaining restraints on media
concentration. In 1983, 50 corporations controlled the majority of all
news media in the United States. Today only six do: Time Warner, Disney,
archconservative Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. (Fox’s parent company),
Bertelsmann, Viacom and General Electric Co. It was as though Powell has
this all ready to go, and waited for the right moment to spring it,
behind a smokescreen. His behaviour implies he knew 9/11 was coming. The
technique is similar to one favoured by Canadian politicians to pass
unpopular legislation on Christmas eve when no one is looking.


Cheney and Ashcroft claim they drafted the 600-page Patriot Act in less
than a week. It is a very complicated document. It even included
unrelated pork for pharmaceutical companies like Merck, to get them of
the hook for legal liability for contaminated vaccines, past, present
and future. I can't believe they could have put this intricate,
deceptively worded document together in only a week. They must have had
it ready before hand waiting for the right moment to spring it, behind a
smokescreen. Legislators passed it in a panic without even reading it
first. It annulled the Bill of Rights. This behaviour implies Cheney and
Ashcroft knew 9/11 was coming. The technique is similar to one favoured
by Canadian politicians to pass unpopular legislation on Christmas eve
when no one is looking.


Carmen bin Ladin (she spells her name differently), bin Laden's
estranged sister in law, says in her book Inside the Kingdom: My Life in
Saudi Arabia that the bin Laden family all believe Osama had nothing to
do with 9/11.


Bush used 9/11 as a pretext to invade Afghanistan, even though Saudis
ostensibly committed the deed. He then installed ex-Unocal men to run
the country. They built a pipeline for Unocal and raised trillions by
restarting the opium trade.


Bush used 9/11 as a pretext to invade Iraq even though he later admitted
the two had no connection. "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was
involved with the September 11th attacks."
~ George W. Bush, 2003-09-17.


Bush used 9/11 as a pretext for the Patriot Act to nullify important
constitutional rights such as habeas corpus, freedom from cruel and
unusual punishment, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.


In 1976 the US Army prepared a plan to take down the two World Trade
Towers using commercial airliners, using plastic box cutters to get
through security, as part of its "antiterrorism" activities. In 1976,
Rumsfeld was Secretary of State, Bush 41 was CIA Director, Nelson
Rockfeller was Vice President, Ford was president, Cheney was chief of
staff, almost the same crew as was in charge for 9/11.


The elaborate Patriot Act was allegedly written in a few days after
9/11, but Cheney and Ashcroft somehow found time to insert some
irrelevant pork to get Merck off the hook for contaminating vaccines
with mercury, freeing it from liability for the autism it allegedly
caused. They must have had the act ready prior to 9/11. They cleverly
panicked the house and senate into passing it without even taking time
to read it.


No high-rise buildings have collapsed before or since from fire
elsewhere, yet three supposedly did on 2001-09-11 in New York City.
Whomever chose those two buildings to hit either did a detailed
engineering study to discover their vulnerability to collapse by fire,
or took the buildings down with demolition. I have trouble imagining
cave dwellers pulling either of those two feats off. Blind luck would be
plausible if it were not for the fact Bush 41 had a detailed plan in
place to take them out formulated in 1976 using airliners and
boxcutters.

Bush had the rubble quickly shipped to China to be melted, even though
it is illegal to destroy rubble from an engineering failure or a crime
scene. You have to investigate precisely what caused the failures so
that you can build safer buildings in future.

And that explains why I don't listen to you-tube.
Everything you listed, in order,(whatever) can be explained several
different ways, and more logically. Of course, now your going to try to
convince me of the error of my thinking, (cool). After all that's what
I'm trying to do for you. I'm not going to try too hard though, if you
want to believe this ridiculous conspiracy theory, Go for it... and Good
luck with it!!!

Peace out friend........

Thats what I thought, you dont want to know what happened on 911.


sadly, pathetic.

What is there to know? There are more than 25 million people in NY city,
Man, and many more watched on TV as two passenger airliners ran into the
twin Towers. Maybe they used mirrors?? (NOT)
They showed for months, the steel collecting in scrap yards, twisted
burned hunks of steel. maybe they set up cardboard duplicates then
called the major news channels to conspire with them? (not likely) Sure
the government made mistakes, before and after 9-11, but chasing around
this over imposed conspiracy theory, that the US and Israel actually did
it. Is nothing more than a waste of time, and energy that could be used
to actually do something real and constructive.

The only part I am going to comment on is when you brought up President
Bush not reacting while withthe children and the secret service having
final authority to whisk hm away.

BULLCHIT AND POPPY****!!!

President Bush is an achieved politician (another word for politician
could be actor/actress). He is extremely capable of keeping a public
face under ANY circumstances (except possibly a rifly touching the tip
of his nose, then Yes I believe his public face would probably crack at
the least).

Had President Bush acted on the spot at the school, I garuntee you the
entire local areas surrounding that school would have been doing
everythig it could to escape the area WITH THEIR KIDS FROM THE SCHOOL.
It would have been disastrous.

and as far as secret service havig final word... The FU&* they do. Yes
they have preplanned strategies to extract the President in time of
need. Yes they are trained to tackle the President if neccesary (as an
example) adn then whisk him away IF UNDER IMMEDIATE THREAT. President
Bush was not at any time under immediate threat! Wether, as you claim,
this is somethign he knew from preplanning, or not it matters not.
There was no immediate threat to the President of the United States, and
so the secret service could do NOTHNG except stand there and take their
orders. The only possible thing they could have done was to prepare the
path of retreat which I am sure they did.

Im glad he proved the point about you-tube. Too many times I hear ppl
refrence them as a source on here. Obviously you can see the error in
that. Hell they even used some of that steel here in Asheville for a
sculpture in front of the FED building.

theyve authorized it to be used in memorials throughout the usa...

not in college......
not mine anyway

reading that **** can you blame them??
Just because it fits your view on certain subjects does not validate it
as a good unbiased refrence!

why cant someone watch 30 or 40 minutes of a 90 minute video done by a
non-biased resercher who hasent made a dime on this project?

You can watch sit-coms or other "stuff" why not give this video a
chance?

why? why?

You give up your Freedoms and sons and daughters to a war for lies and
you wont give 40 minutes to this?


Im sorry for you.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMWn-bQYfSc

ok beer and whiskey, Ill watch it, so I wont be close minded, I think
that I have seen it all before though, and it is biased. Its youtube,
(entertainment)

thanks for giving it a chance, thats all I asked.

Can you explain this? The new twenties were put out during the Clinton
administration.

sorry man, loost ya there... Can we explain what aboutthe new twenties?

you never saw the twin towers on the twenty? Look at my picture, That
should look like the Twin Towers.

I wil have to look once I have a twenty on hand... I never noticed
before.

Look on my profile, you'll see both sides. the Twin Towers, and the
Pentagon is on the back, the bill is shaped like a plane which is flight
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