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Topic: Is there any way
jtitol's photo
Sun 08/10/08 06:21 PM
2 turn a woman whos really flaky and desperate into a confident and independent woman?

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Sun 08/10/08 06:23 PM
no

Johncenawlife316's photo
Sun 08/10/08 06:24 PM

2 turn a woman whos really flaky and desperate into a confident and independent woman?


Anything can happen.. if you belive. :wink:

AtrueOne's photo
Sun 08/10/08 06:26 PM
By helping them find confidence and allowing her to be who she is. If she is a natural submissive then she is happiest when those around her are happy.glasses

jtitol's photo
Sun 08/10/08 06:34 PM

By helping them find confidence and allowing her to be who she is. If she is a natural submissive then she is happiest when those around her are happy.glasses
how the hell do u do that? she s so flaky and desperate i just wanted 2 run and hide

Fade2Black's photo
Sun 08/10/08 06:37 PM

2 turn a woman whos really flaky and desperate into a confident and independent woman?





uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh probably not. why not just start with a healthy woman in the first place :wink:

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Sun 08/10/08 06:42 PM
frustrated

EtherealEmbers's photo
Sun 08/10/08 06:43 PM
I'd say there's hope, but it will take a LONG TIME... like... YEARS... and a better question would be, are you willing to invest that kind of time with a person just to get them to open up and be responsible?

jdquig's photo
Sun 08/10/08 06:44 PM
Edited by jdquig on Sun 08/10/08 06:45 PM
flaky and desperate and confident are all states of mind...

Independent? hell yes. anyone can achieve that all they have to do is claim responsibility for themselves.

jtitol's photo
Sun 08/10/08 07:27 PM
u mean theres no hope

jtitol's photo
Mon 08/11/08 03:48 AM

flaky and desperate and confident are all states of mind...

Independent? hell yes. anyone can achieve that all they have to do is claim responsibility for themselves.
huh huh huh

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Mon 08/11/08 04:01 AM
The only person who can change that is her and if she doesn't see the problem or doesn't think it's a problem, then no, no can do. You cannot change another person, all you can do is accept that's how they are. The question you have to answer for yourself is whether or not you can live with it if nothing ever changes? If the answer is no, it's not the right relationship for you. flowerforyou

bad_girl's photo
Mon 08/11/08 04:48 AM
She has to want to change, and you really should start with a woman who has it at least somewhat togetherflowers

sparkleplenty424's photo
Mon 08/11/08 04:49 AM
you can't change other people, nor should you.

If you don't like her the way she is, find someone that you do like.

jtitol's photo
Mon 08/11/08 04:53 AM

The only person who can change that is her and if she doesn't see the problem or doesn't think it's a problem, then no, no can do. You cannot change another person, all you can do is accept that's how they are. The question you have to answer for yourself is whether or not you can live with it if nothing ever changes? If the answer is no, it's not the right relationship for you. flowerforyou
should i tell her how much it brothers me and in what way?

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Mon 08/11/08 05:11 AM


2 turn a woman whos really flaky and desperate into a confident and independent woman?





uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh probably not. why not just start with a healthy woman in the first place :wink:

Listen to the Fade, Dude.

You may want to ask yourself.... why do I find myself attracted to this type of woman?

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Mon 08/11/08 05:52 AM


The only person who can change that is her and if she doesn't see the problem or doesn't think it's a problem, then no, no can do. You cannot change another person, all you can do is accept that's how they are. The question you have to answer for yourself is whether or not you can live with it if nothing ever changes? If the answer is no, it's not the right relationship for you. flowerforyou
should i tell her how much it brothers me and in what way?



You can tell her, it may give her something to think about. But more than likely, she will get incredibly defensive. And I wouldn't expect that anything will happen. There may be some short term changes but, change of that magnitude generally requires a LOT of time and professional help.

jtitol's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:09 AM
well it appears this is the only way or more like the last resort
im willin 2 wait as long as it takes and help her in any way i can
but if nothing changes then...

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Mon 08/11/08 06:11 AM
I admire your patience and depth of caring and I wish you all the best. Just, don't get your hopes up too high, it's a long difficult road ahead, even if she does admit it's a problem. Making real change within yourself doesn't come easily or quickly, most of the time.

jtitol's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:19 AM

I admire your patience and depth of caring and I wish you all the best. Just, don't get your hopes up too high, it's a long difficult road ahead, even if she does admit it's a problem. Making real change within yourself doesn't come easily or quickly, most of the time.
thank uflowerforyoujust have 2 let time take its course and hope 4 the best

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