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Many years ago some shared with me that sometimes you have to lose it all to gain it all. It seemed a bit strange to me at the time till I appiled it to my walk with Christ. Then it made perfect sense. Most people who can't understand the concept of love and surrender have been hurt by so many people. ecause of that they can't imagine a loving God allowing for such things to happen. Because of this they are blcked from recieving the love that God offers us through Christ. Because of that block they can profess the end result should be loving one another...but can't take the steps identified by Christ to get there. I hear that... it's a tough one to get past... but I am confident that God knows what it will take for people to get "there," whatever that will take. For me it was a healing from thinking God forgot me to knowing that he didn't by His intervention. It was a real turning point for me. That's what gave me the courage I needed to believe Him. I stopped wondering why it took this long & thinking that I failed God someway. We can't question God's timing. He doesn't think of time or success the way we do. God also never gets weary or tired of us either. Thank God for His goodness & mercies.   Amen! 
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 Thanks zap
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Love God with all your heart, soul and mind, and love your neighbor as thyself.
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Feral how do we achieve those goals? By our obedience to the commands of Jesus
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Edited by
Zapchaser
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Sun 08/10/08 08:31 AM
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Thanks zap God bless! Keep on keepin' on and don't let the slammers get you down!  Stay on the road. I got so tired of them that I rarely post in this forum anymore. 
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<----Jesus was a role model
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 08/10/08 08:32 AM
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Many years ago some shared with me that sometimes you have to lose it all to gain it all. It seemed a bit strange to me at the time till I appiled it to my walk with Christ. Then it made perfect sense. Most people who can't understand the concept of love and surrender have been hurt by so many people. ecause of that they can't imagine a loving God allowing for such things to happen. Because of this they are blcked from recieving the love that God offers us through Christ. Because of that block they can profess the end result should be loving one another...but can't take the steps identified by Christ to get there. I understand love and I understand surrender too. If it had been said that when you love others as yourself, then you love God I can understand that. But when it is worded "If you love me you will obey...." I have a problem with that. Mostly because I don't need a command to love others, and I don't think the command itself can cause a person to love. Love comes from experience and understanding and compassion and all of those things. We learn to love. We don't love because someone commands it. JB |
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Thanks zap God bless! Keep on keepin' on and don't let the slammers get you down! Stay on the road. I got so tired of them that I rarely post in this forum anymore. Well come back... LOL
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Many years ago some shared with me that sometimes you have to lose it all to gain it all. It seemed a bit strange to me at the time till I appiled it to my walk with Christ. Then it made perfect sense. Most people who can't understand the concept of love and surrender have been hurt by so many people. ecause of that they can't imagine a loving God allowing for such things to happen. Because of this they are blcked from recieving the love that God offers us through Christ. Because of that block they can profess the end result should be loving one another...but can't take the steps identified by Christ to get there. I understand love and I understand surrender too. If it had been said that when you love others as yourself, then you love God I can understand that. But when it is worded "If you love me you will obey...." I have a problem with that. Mostly because I don't need a command to love others, and I don't think the command itself can cause a person to love. Love comes from experience and understanding and compassion and all of those things. We learn to love. We don't love because someone commands it. JB Well God's command is not like brutal force...to experience that is to know that you know it is true. The best intentions can even be skewed at times. some see love from the POV of their experiences only & not what it truly is. Same for faith, joy, hope, meekness, kindness etc... There is a script where Jesus says if your father who does evil gives good gifts to his children, how much more would God give to those who He loves? What that means is Jesus was saying that God is even more than what we could think or imagine. That's why we CHOOSE to surrender to Him. He wants to take us somewhere but if we don't surrender He can't possibly take us there. |
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The commands of Jesus lead to freedom...imagine how much freedom comes from loving your enemies, not judging, by giving out of love for your fellowman rather than because you feel you have to. It is a road where what may seem hard leads to our greatest freedom and ability to love.
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Thanks zap I never let slammers get me cuz my path is set in Christ and not in men
If I ever statrted worrying about what people think I'd be in real trouble
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The commands of Jesus lead to freedom...imagine how much freedom comes from loving your enemies, not judging, by giving out of love for your fellowman rather than because you feel you have to. It is a road where what may seem hard leads to our greatest freedom and ability to love. It must be a slant on the word "command" then because if you are free then no one commands you. If I can love my enemies, not judging them just loving them because it is a natural thing to love, then I am free. This comes with understanding self and others as children of God. It needs no command because it comes natural if you are open to your connection to all that is. JB |
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It is much in the way that a child obeys their parents and by doing so end up with a better adulthood, and thereforegain freedom....As humans our greatest loss comes when we believe that we can comprehend an infinite God from our finitie minds. The closest we can come to that is by understanding His word. In the commands we find a path to peel away the things that are our greatest shortcomings
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Feral how do we achieve those goals? By our obedience to the commands of Jesus by our faith and God's Grace....... |
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Groovy answer my sister
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The commands of Jesus lead to freedom...imagine how much freedom comes from loving your enemies, not judging, by giving out of love for your fellowman rather than because you feel you have to. It is a road where what may seem hard leads to our greatest freedom and ability to love. Yes...the service this morning was about being the sacrifce on the alter... our self so God can be our all in all... The place where it says.. when the enemy came he found nothing in me...but God. WOW! Everyone check out 2Chron 5-7. AWESOME... about God's glory. |
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It is much in the way that a child obeys their parents and by doing so end up with a better adulthood, and thereforegain freedom....As humans our greatest loss comes when we believe that we can comprehend an infinite God from our finitie minds. The closest we can come to that is by understanding His word. In the commands we find a path to peel away the things that are our greatest shortcomings I remember feeling very betrayed by the brainwashing I got in the world. It made me wonder how I got there in the first place??? The attack on our conscience seers our view to the point of forgetting what is good & glorious. I can thank God for restoring me to that place of glory in Him. He literally can open our eyes to see goodness & glory in life & living. Wonderful Savior...our Jesus is.
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It's easy to feel betrayed in a world baed on betrayal...if you look around we feel betrayed many times by our family, our friends, our government, and so many things but in the end God has promised love and joy to those who truly seek Him. Since there is only one thing He can not do (lie) then it is true....but you can't see it till you give you to Christ and walk as he would have you walk.
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Yep! ...and many still walk in darkness.
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Quik remember Jesus said many would seek but few would find the way.
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