Topic: Trucker running for President
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Thu 07/31/08 09:06 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 07/31/08 09:16 PM

Fanta, If he were different he would not be a Democrat. He had to meet their requirements to be their man. Which means he can make them money!


See that's why nothing ever changes.
A good Politician comes along and no one is willing to support them. They just listen to the lies, they listen to their fears, and they make assumptions that hes too good to be true.
They listen to their fears and we end up with another Bush instead of taking the chance that could result in a future that actually offers hope.

John Kerry and Edwards said there are two America's, They offered a real solution, a solution to outsourcing, a solution to health-care, and a solution that could have saved 2000 American soldiers from death in an illegal war.

Americans listened to the lies coming from the Republicans grand deceivers, they listened to the fears that it was all too good to be true, and rather than take the chance that could have led to hope, they elected Bush and got 4 more years of the same shet. Look at where we are now, and think back to 2004!
You know I'm speaking the truth. Everyone does!

Had America elected Kerry and Edwards could we have been worse off than we are now? Sure, Maybe, but I doubt it, and we'll never know because everyone was too afraid to take a chance!


The Republicans are doing it again. They are spreading lies on their blog sites about Obama, they are flip-flopping all over the board, and they are playing on your hidden fears by offering false promises. They are presuming Americans are gullible and stupid. They are arrogant, unethical, and lacking in integrity. They are the same old same old!

Maybe Obama scares you because he is different? Maybe he scares you because he isnt the same old traditional Politician? Maybe he scares you because you are afraid of success and hope outside of your normal comfort zone?

After the last 8 years what is there left to be afraid of?
We sure cant go much lower!
I'm ready to take the chance. I believe in Obama!!

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Thu 07/31/08 09:24 PM
Edited by littleredhen on Thu 07/31/08 09:24 PM
I am not believing the what the rebublicans say about Obamba, & I am not "afraid" of him. I just know that he is another figurehead for the same old democratic perty, just as Mc Cain is a figurehead for the same old republican party.

We need to think outside these two choices which get us no where. The 2 parties only divide the country & keep people from seeking alternatives.
It dosn't matter much who wins,if they are party men, they are still controled by the money that got them elected.

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Thu 07/31/08 10:00 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 07/31/08 10:02 PM

I am not believing the what the rebublicans say about Obamba, & I am not "afraid" of him. I just know that he is another figurehead for the same old democratic perty, just as Mc Cain is a figurehead for the same old republican party.

We need to think outside these two choices which get us no where. The 2 parties only divide the country & keep people from seeking alternatives.
It dosn't matter much who wins,if they are party men, they are still controled by the money that got them elected.



noway noway noway noway noway noway

History created the two party system.
One election with 4 candidates. None received enough votes to win.
The House of Representatives picked the winner according to the Constitution and it wasn't the one with the most popular votes.
It was a catastrophe that ended with a President who was not the peoples choice. The Presidential election of 1824! John Quincy Adams became the President!

Another that the house had to settle for different reasons resulted in a tie between the Presidential candidate and his running mate (VP).
It ended with the one with the most popular votes winning but being settled by one man. His pick resulted in a duel which killed Alexander Hamilton. The man who decided the election.
The President was Thomas Jefferson and the election was in 1800!

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Thu 07/31/08 10:32 PM
Fanta I admit I don't remember much about the beginings of this 2 party system, but I do keep a copy of the constituion on my desk. I don't recall anything in it saying we have to choose between two political parties. The president must be 35 years of age & a natural born citizen residing in the US for 14 years.

I will start reading up on the subject.



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Thu 07/31/08 10:34 PM


I am not believing the what the rebublicans say about Obamba, & I am not "afraid" of him. I just know that he is another figurehead for the same old democratic perty, just as Mc Cain is a figurehead for the same old republican party.

We need to think outside these two choices which get us no where. The 2 parties only divide the country & keep people from seeking alternatives.
It dosn't matter much who wins,if they are party men, they are still controled by the money that got them elected.



noway noway noway noway noway noway

History created the two party system.
One election with 4 candidates. None received enough votes to win.
The House of Representatives picked the winner according to the Constitution and it wasn't the one with the most popular votes.
It was a catastrophe that ended with a President who was not the peoples choice. The Presidential election of 1824! John Quincy Adams became the President!

Another that the house had to settle for different reasons resulted in a tie between the Presidential candidate and his running mate (VP).
It ended with the one with the most popular votes winning but being settled by one man. His pick resulted in a duel which killed Alexander Hamilton. The man who decided the election.
The President was Thomas Jefferson and the election was in 1800!



laugh recalling the milk commercial where the man has a mouthful of peanut butter & is trying to say "Aaron Burr"

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Fri 08/01/08 04:54 PM
LETS SEE WHAT WE HAVE HERE OSAMA OOPS OBAMA AND MCBUSH I MEAN MCCAIN
IN OBAMAS OWN WORDS!
This guy wants to be our President and control our government.
Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from
Obama's books. These are passages in his own words:

From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's
race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I
was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I found a solace in nursing a
pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that
made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which
side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike
out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown
men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image,
the black man, son of Africa, that I had packed all the attributes I
sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and
Mandela.'

And here's the clincher: (grab on to something when you read
this:)

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the
political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
_____________________________________

Holy Moley!!!!! Is anyone paying attention out there??????? Does
that mean if elected President he would hand us over to the
Muslims????????


And it's in PRINT and IN HIS OWN WORDS!
Everyone needs to know who Obama really is --- not who he
wants you to think he is. If you are as concerned as I am,

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Fri 08/01/08 05:01 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 08/01/08 05:31 PM

LETS SEE WHAT WE HAVE HERE OSAMA OOPS OBAMA AND MCBUSH I MEAN MCCAIN
IN OBAMAS OWN WORDS!
This guy wants to be our President and control our government.
Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from
Obama's books. These are passages in his own words:

From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's
race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I
was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I found a solace in nursing a
pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that
made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which
side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike
out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown
men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image,
the black man, son of Africa, that I had packed all the attributes I
sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and
Mandela.'

And here's the clincher: (grab on to something when you read
this:)

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the
political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
_____________________________________

Holy Moley!!!!! Is anyone paying attention out there??????? Does
that mean if elected President he would hand us over to the
Muslims????????


And it's in PRINT and IN HIS OWN WORDS!
Everyone needs to know who Obama really is --- not who he
wants you to think he is. If you are as concerned as I am,



Republican blogs!!!noway noway noway

You do realize these comments are lies dont you?

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Fri 08/01/08 05:06 PM
Holey Moley,
Lets take this one!!

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

In the book this LINE was taken from pg #261. He doesnt even use the word Muslim.

Here's what it really says,

page 261 of The Audacity of Hope

“In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly: they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during WWII, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”


Not even close!!
Busted! another Republican Lie!!

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Fri 08/01/08 05:08 PM
If that's the clincher your in trouble!

Lets see what else was changed!!

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Fri 08/01/08 05:13 PM
Here you go!


Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father": Nothing like this quote appears in Obama's books.

laugh laugh laugh



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Fri 08/01/08 05:13 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 08/01/08 05:15 PM
Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father: "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pg. 220]: Yes, I'd seen weakness in other men - Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo and his compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela. And if later I saw that the black men I knew - Frank or Ray or Will or Rafiq - fell short of such lofty standards; if I had learned to respect these men for the struggles they went through, recognizing them as my own - my father's voice had nevertheless remained untainted, inspiring, rebuking, granting or withholding approval. You do not work hard enough, Barry. You must help in your people's struggle. Wake up, black man!

noway noway noway

Shame, Shame!

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Fri 08/01/08 05:19 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 08/01/08 05:28 PM
Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pgs. 141-142]: Now he was trying to pull urban blacks and suburban whites together around a plan to save manufacturing jobs in metropolitan Chicago. He needed somebody to work with him, he said. Somebody black. ...

He offered to start me off at ten thousand dollars the first year, with a two-thousand-dollar travel allowance to buy a car; the salary would go up if things worked out. After he was gone, I took the long way home, along the East River promenade, and tried to figure out what to make of the man. He was smart, I decided. He seemed committed to his work. Still, there was something about him that made me wary. A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white - he'd said himself that that was a problem.


This reminds me of a warning from Obama yesterday.
The one where McConfused said he was playing the race card?

I think Obama said that the Republicans would try to scare you because he doesn't look like all those other Presidents on the money!

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Fri 08/01/08 05:22 PM
Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pg. xv]: When people who don't know me well, black or white, discover my background (and it is usually a discovery, for I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites), I see the split-second adjustments they have to make, the searching of my eyes for some telltale sign. They no longer know who I am. Privately, they guess at my troubled heart, I suppose - the mixed blood, the divided soul, the ghostly image of the tragic mulatto trapped between two worlds. And if I were to explain that no, the tragedy is not mine, or at least not mine alone, it is yours, sons and daughters of Plymouth Rock and Ellis Island, it is yours, children of Africa, it is the tragedy of both my wife's six-year-old cousin and his white first grade classmates, so that you need not guess at what troubles me, it's on the nightly news for all to see, and that if we could acknowledge at least that much then the tragic cycle begins to break down...well, I suspect that I sound incurably naive, wedded to lost hopes, like those Communists who peddle their newspapers on the fringes of various college towns. Or worse, I sound like I'm trying to hide from myself.


Why must the Republicans spread these lies?
Is it because they arogantly presume their followers (sheep) are stupid??
Maybe its because they have nothing else!!noway noway

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Fri 08/01/08 05:23 PM
Misleading e-mail: From Dreams of My Father : ; "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

Actual quote from "Dreams from My Father" [pg. 100-101]: To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed necolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. But this strategy alone couldn't provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerated. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.

Pitiful!!

And people will actually vote Republican!!!noway noway noway

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Fri 08/01/08 05:24 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 08/01/08 05:25 PM
Credibility sure isnt a strong suit for the Republican Party...


http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

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Fri 08/01/08 05:42 PM
People wonder why as an Independent, after a lifetime of voting Republican, I suddenly changed and started voting for a Democrat in 2004!!

This Republican Party is corrupt to the core.
Lies to get elected office.
Then more lies while in office.

Not just white lies either.
Lies with malice.
Lies which concern abuse of life.
Lies to take away Americans constitutional rights!

Don't come back with the BS about how
Democrats do it too.
I'll agree with you, and then ask you to show near this many,
and just one with the implications of the Republicans premeditated non stop lies!

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Fri 08/01/08 07:28 PM
OK I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN BUT I DO CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE CONSERVATIVE BUT I THINK OUR PRESIDENT SHOULD BE OF AMERICAN BIRTH AND RAISED IN AMERICA WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS IN THE USA WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT CLEANING UP OUR OWN BACK YARD INSTEAD OF BEING THE WORLDS 911 SERVICE

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Fri 08/01/08 07:29 PM
A TWO PARTY ELECTORIAL SYSTEM IS NOT A TRUE DEMOCRACY!

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Fri 08/01/08 08:05 PM
Edited by littleredhen on Fri 08/01/08 08:29 PM

OK I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN BUT I DO CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE CONSERVATIVE BUT I THINK OUR PRESIDENT SHOULD BE OF AMERICAN BIRTH AND RAISED IN AMERICA WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS IN THE USA WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT CLEANING UP OUR OWN BACK YARD INSTEAD OF BEING THE WORLDS 911 SERVICE



McCain was born in Panama, on a military base while his father was serving there. Some people early on questioned his eligibility to run for president, but he does meet the constitutions specification of "a natural born citizen".

Obama was born in Hawaii & lived there until he was 2. Between the ages on 2 & 10 he lived in Indonesia, then returned to the US. He also clearly meets the birth requirment & the "been 14 years a resident within the United States" requirement.




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Fri 08/01/08 08:09 PM

OK I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN BUT I DO CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE CONSERVATIVE BUT I THINK OUR PRESIDENT SHOULD BE OF AMERICAN BIRTH AND RAISED IN AMERICA WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS IN THE USA WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT CLEANING UP OUR OWN BACK YARD INSTEAD OF BEING THE WORLDS 911 SERVICE


So you just spread the disinformation?
Did you know everything you posted was BS?

Even what you just now posted is a lie.
Obama is an American.
He was born in Hawaii and raised most of his life either there or Kansas where he lived with his grandparents!