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Topic: 1st homegrown tomato
Winx's photo
Wed 07/23/08 09:47 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 07/23/08 09:50 PM

You got it going on girl! i've had four so far, two of them came from the variety "amelia" which is supposed to be resistant to verticulum wilt, and brown spot, they're are a bit pulpy, but delicious off the vine. I also have better boys, and they seem to be thriving.

About the big tomato scare, it was because of tomatoes grown in mexico, and irrigated with human waste water.


Mark, what is verticulum wilt and brown spot? My plants have yellow leaves with brown/black spots on the lower part of the plants. My garden shop called it blight.

I am growing beefsteak tomatoes and cherry tomatoes.


Winx's photo
Wed 07/23/08 09:57 PM


I didn't get to plant as much as i wanted to, My tiller broke down, and i just haven't had time to fix it. But i do have Squash, Cantaloupes, Watermelons, Tomato's Bell peppers, and cayenne peppers growing. Also radishes, but it gets hot here and i was late, so doubt the lettuce will make.


I wish that I had used a tiller. I used an antique hoe.laugh

I have pumpkins, watermelons, tomatoes, corn on the cob, cucumbers, broccli, brussel sprouts, radishes, sweet potatoes,
cauliflower, bush green beans, green peppers, lettuce, and a few others.

And I live in the city.laugh

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Wed 07/23/08 10:36 PM

You got it going on girl! i've had four so far, two of them came from the variety "amelia" which is supposed to be resistant to verticulum wilt, and brown spot, they're are a bit pulpy, but delicious off the vine. I also have better boys, and they seem to be thriving.

About the big tomato scare, it was because of tomatoes grown in mexico, and irrigated with human waste water.


I have 4 plants, Early Girl, Brandywine, Yellow Pear & Grape. I always have good luck with Early Girl, Brandywine is not easy to grow but is the best tasting if you have some luck with them. This year it dosn't look good. The 2 cherry varieies new to me. I am in Wisconsin, so the season is short. Gardening is so much easier back home in Maryland.

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Wed 07/23/08 10:45 PM




I just picked my 1st homegrown tomato of the season. bigsmile
It's going in a salad with my homegrown lettuce!


I'm so jealous. I love homegrown tomatoes, and since living in an apt now, don't have a place to grow themsad


I live in a trailer park with clay fill dirt like concrete! I make compost, buy bags of topsoil & get cow manure from a friend. I have tomatoes in 5 gallon buckets & lettuce in old tubs from the local cheese factory (they throw them out with cracked bottoms, but this is perfect for drainage). I also have herbs in a large pot. Cilantro, rosemary, thyme & oregano. I also have basil growing with the tomatoes. I am determined to at least have fresh salads in the summer. I also like to make pizza with fresh tomtoes & herbs.


That is so clever, LittleRedHen.flowerforyou

I had lettuce and cucumber (13" long) for dinner tonite. And I grew them.bigsmile

I am growing my first veggie garden ever this year. I don't know what I'm doing. I have too much in too small of an area. My tomatoes might have blight. I see some small green ones.
I have two cherry tomato plants and 4 regular tomato plants.



I love cukes! Just the smell when you cut one in winter makes you think of summer!
I want to buy some land so I can have a real garden again. I am so limited here with the short season & clay soil. I know this is not the natural topsoil, this was a swappy area that was filled in for the trailer court. When it's wet it's ankle deep & when it drys it's like cracked concrete! I spent 16 bucks on bags of peat plus manure & compost to make a hill for pumkins so far the 1 surviveing plant isn't growing much. Oh well maybe with more compost next year will be better.

markecephus's photo
Thu 07/24/08 04:57 PM


You got it going on girl! i've had four so far, two of them came from the variety "amelia" which is supposed to be resistant to verticulum wilt, and brown spot, they're are a bit pulpy, but delicious off the vine. I also have better boys, and they seem to be thriving.

About the big tomato scare, it was because of tomatoes grown in mexico, and irrigated with human waste water.


Mark, what is verticulum wilt and brown spot? My plants have yellow leaves with brown/black spots on the lower part of the plants. My garden shop called it blight.

I am growing beefsteak tomatoes and cherry tomatoes.




From what you describe it "is" blight, the thing with that, is that it gets in the soil and it's hard for plants to overcome that. What you need there, is a good systemic fungicide. stake them up so the foliage and fruit are not in contact with the soil. sucker the plants (remove the bottom shoots) These will bear no fruit and only deplete the plant of nutrients. Also, try watering at the base of the plant, keeping the water off of the foliage. I know...they will get wet when it rains...but it does help to keep them dry.

markecephus's photo
Fri 07/25/08 12:13 PM

Winx, verticulum wilt is the name for "blight" as described in my last post, it attacks the plants through the root system.

LRH, in places with shorter growing seasons, you can up the fertilizer. 5-10-15 is a good start,(5% nitrogen 10% phosphorus 15% potassium) It's best to let the plants get a head start before setting fruit, so for the majority of them pinch the blooms until the plant is well established...when they are mature enough, up it to 10-60-10 The high phosphorus, will make the plant flower....profusely...You can get it at walmart, it's concentrated...super bloom plus. I think miracle grow has a similar product.


Winx's photo
Fri 07/25/08 07:43 PM





I just picked my 1st homegrown tomato of the season. bigsmile
It's going in a salad with my homegrown lettuce!


I'm so jealous. I love homegrown tomatoes, and since living in an apt now, don't have a place to grow themsad


I live in a trailer park with clay fill dirt like concrete! I make compost, buy bags of topsoil & get cow manure from a friend. I have tomatoes in 5 gallon buckets & lettuce in old tubs from the local cheese factory (they throw them out with cracked bottoms, but this is perfect for drainage). I also have herbs in a large pot. Cilantro, rosemary, thyme & oregano. I also have basil growing with the tomatoes. I am determined to at least have fresh salads in the summer. I also like to make pizza with fresh tomtoes & herbs.


That is so clever, LittleRedHen.flowerforyou

I had lettuce and cucumber (13" long) for dinner tonite. And I grew them.bigsmile

I am growing my first veggie garden ever this year. I don't know what I'm doing. I have too much in too small of an area. My tomatoes might have blight. I see some small green ones.
I have two cherry tomato plants and 4 regular tomato plants.



I love cukes! Just the smell when you cut one in winter makes you think of summer!
I want to buy some land so I can have a real garden again. I am so limited here with the short season & clay soil. I know this is not the natural topsoil, this was a swappy area that was filled in for the trailer court. When it's wet it's ankle deep & when it drys it's like cracked concrete! I spent 16 bucks on bags of peat plus manure & compost to make a hill for pumkins so far the 1 surviveing plant isn't growing much. Oh well maybe with more compost next year will be better.


Well, I have given away 5 cucumbers today and saved 3 for myself. That was fun.happy They grew overnight.laugh I've been told to not let them grow to be a foot long because the smaller ones taste better. Have you heard of this before?

Yikes. Your soil does not sound fun to work with at all.noway

My pumpkins have just starting flowering. My child wants so much to have one, that we grew ourselves, for carving this Halloween.

Winx's photo
Fri 07/25/08 07:47 PM



You got it going on girl! i've had four so far, two of them came from the variety "amelia" which is supposed to be resistant to verticulum wilt, and brown spot, they're are a bit pulpy, but delicious off the vine. I also have better boys, and they seem to be thriving.

About the big tomato scare, it was because of tomatoes grown in mexico, and irrigated with human waste water.


Mark, what is verticulum wilt and brown spot? My plants have yellow leaves with brown/black spots on the lower part of the plants. My garden shop called it blight.

I am growing beefsteak tomatoes and cherry tomatoes.




From what you describe it "is" blight, the thing with that, is that it gets in the soil and it's hard for plants to overcome that. What you need there, is a good systemic fungicide. stake them up so the foliage and fruit are not in contact with the soil. sucker the plants (remove the bottom shoots) These will bear no fruit and only deplete the plant of nutrients. Also, try watering at the base of the plant, keeping the water off of the foliage. I know...they will get wet when it rains...but it does help to keep them dry.


It's been pouring down rain here for two days. Tomorrow I will remove the bottom branches. Thanks for the advise.flowerforyou I did notice today that some green leaves are getting black spots. Rats.grumble

stardust50's photo
Fri 07/25/08 07:50 PM
I have had a garden for years now grow my own veggies.......I had so many tomatoes that I was taking them to work and giving them away, I have green beans, spinach, watermellons, bellpeppers,
squash,pumpkins which are huge now, but all time special is my green chilie. I roast them and make salsa seems every week cannot keep in my house oh yes I make home made tortillas too.

I love my garden it is the only place I can go and think and think and think, many good decisions have been made in my garden:smile:

Winx's photo
Fri 07/25/08 07:52 PM


Winx, verticulum wilt is the name for "blight" as described in my last post, it attacks the plants through the root system.

LRH, in places with shorter growing seasons, you can up the fertilizer. 5-10-15 is a good start,(5% nitrogen 10% phosphorus 15% potassium) It's best to let the plants get a head start before setting fruit, so for the majority of them pinch the blooms until the plant is well established...when they are mature enough, up it to 10-60-10 The high phosphorus, will make the plant flower....profusely...You can get it at walmart, it's concentrated...super bloom plus. I think miracle grow has a similar product.




Last month I already put down a time released fertilizer by Miracle Grow. It's good for three months. I will check to see if there is enought phosphorus.

Is LRH a product name?

Is this blight situation is attacking the roots of the plants (6), it sounds like I have a losing battle.

Will this hurt the soil for next year?

Heavy sigh. I have so much to learn. But..it is fun.:smile:

markecephus's photo
Fri 07/25/08 08:27 PM

Hi Winx, yes, it's best to remove them, anything you can do to help improve air circulation. (this includes not planting them too close together)

We have a greenhouse, and several years back before my dad passed, we did an experiment. we took cuttings from the healthiest plants, (it was in oct. that year but we have a long growing season) We pinched out the blooms and rooted the plants. We put the two healthiest in a 2' x 4' wooden box about three feet deep. We added 5-10-15 to the potting soil.

When the plants were well established, we removed the blooms from the plant on the right, and left them for the plant on the left. We also added a grow light above them, and put it on a timer to simulate longer days. We upped the fertilizer to 10-60-10, and we kept them watered. This is what we found out...

The plant on the right, outgrew and out produced the plant on the left, although it took longer to produce initially. it fell over onto the bench and produced all winter, more than we could eat. mom even put some up, and we gave away tomatoes all winter, the plant on the left, produced as well but did not grow as large. But from both plants, you could not tell they were greenhouse grown. Reason : high phosphorus.

In the summertime, it became too hot for them to bear, so we removed them...now get this....The plant on the right, which we initially pinched back, measured a staggering 27 feet in length, (and i'm not sure that isn't a record) with a base trunk the width of a golf ball. The other was fifteen feet, w9ith the base about the diameter of a quarter.

I know this is a lengthy read, but it proves a couple of things,,,

Tomatoes can stand higher fertilizers in colder climates, but they need the extra light, a good twelve hours a day, and they can withstand almost freezing temps, if the frost is kept off them.

markecephus's photo
Fri 07/25/08 09:17 PM


Last month I already put down a time released fertilizer by Miracle Grow. It's good for three months. I will check to see if there is enought phosphorus.

Is LRH a product name?

Is this blight situation is attacking the roots of the plants (6), it sounds like I have a losing battle.

Will this hurt the soil for next year?

Heavy sigh. I have so much to learn. But..it is fun.smile
somehow i missed this post. lol, no, LRH is short for littleRedHen.

The battle against blight can be won with the right systemic and topical fungicides. In small gardens, some people swear by pouring diluted clorox over the soil, and covering it with black plastic over the winter, but i can't verify that will work

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Fri 07/25/08 10:22 PM


Winx, verticulum wilt is the name for "blight" as described in my last post, it attacks the plants through the root system.

LRH, in places with shorter growing seasons, you can up the fertilizer. 5-10-15 is a good start,(5% nitrogen 10% phosphorus 15% potassium) It's best to let the plants get a head start before setting fruit, so for the majority of them pinch the blooms until the plant is well established...when they are mature enough, up it to 10-60-10 The high phosphorus, will make the plant flower....profusely...You can get it at walmart, it's concentrated...super bloom plus. I think miracle grow has a similar product.




I am doing OK with compost & cow manure. I am single, so I don't need a bumper crop. But Thanks for the information any way. You must be a great green thumb.flowerforyou

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Fri 07/25/08 10:23 PM






I just picked my 1st homegrown tomato of the season. bigsmile
It's going in a salad with my homegrown lettuce!


I'm so jealous. I love homegrown tomatoes, and since living in an apt now, don't have a place to grow themsad


I live in a trailer park with clay fill dirt like concrete! I make compost, buy bags of topsoil & get cow manure from a friend. I have tomatoes in 5 gallon buckets & lettuce in old tubs from the local cheese factory (they throw them out with cracked bottoms, but this is perfect for drainage). I also have herbs in a large pot. Cilantro, rosemary, thyme & oregano. I also have basil growing with the tomatoes. I am determined to at least have fresh salads in the summer. I also like to make pizza with fresh tomtoes & herbs.


That is so clever, LittleRedHen.flowerforyou

I had lettuce and cucumber (13" long) for dinner tonite. And I grew them.bigsmile

I am growing my first veggie garden ever this year. I don't know what I'm doing. I have too much in too small of an area. My tomatoes might have blight. I see some small green ones.
I have two cherry tomato plants and 4 regular tomato plants.



I love cukes! Just the smell when you cut one in winter makes you think of summer!
I want to buy some land so I can have a real garden again. I am so limited here with the short season & clay soil. I know this is not the natural topsoil, this was a swappy area that was filled in for the trailer court. When it's wet it's ankle deep & when it drys it's like cracked concrete! I spent 16 bucks on bags of peat plus manure & compost to make a hill for pumkins so far the 1 surviveing plant isn't growing much. Oh well maybe with more compost next year will be better.


Well, I have given away 5 cucumbers today and saved 3 for myself. That was fun.happy They grew overnight.laugh I've been told to not let them grow to be a foot long because the smaller ones taste better. Have you heard of this before?

Yikes. Your soil does not sound fun to work with at all.noway

My pumpkins have just starting flowering. My child wants so much to have one, that we grew ourselves, for carving this Halloween.


The smaller ones have a better texture I think.

no photo
Fri 07/25/08 10:24 PM

I have had a garden for years now grow my own veggies.......I had so many tomatoes that I was taking them to work and giving them away, I have green beans, spinach, watermellons, bellpeppers,
squash,pumpkins which are huge now, but all time special is my green chilie. I roast them and make salsa seems every week cannot keep in my house oh yes I make home made tortillas too.

I love my garden it is the only place I can go and think and think and think, many good decisions have been made in my garden:smile:


YUMMY!

no photo
Fri 07/25/08 10:26 PM



Winx, verticulum wilt is the name for "blight" as described in my last post, it attacks the plants through the root system.

LRH, in places with shorter growing seasons, you can up the fertilizer. 5-10-15 is a good start,(5% nitrogen 10% phosphorus 15% potassium) It's best to let the plants get a head start before setting fruit, so for the majority of them pinch the blooms until the plant is well established...when they are mature enough, up it to 10-60-10 The high phosphorus, will make the plant flower....profusely...You can get it at walmart, it's concentrated...super bloom plus. I think miracle grow has a similar product.




Last month I already put down a time released fertilizer by Miracle Grow. It's good for three months. I will check to see if there is enought phosphorus.

Is LRH a product name?

Is this blight situation is attacking the roots of the plants (6), it sounds like I have a losing battle.

Will this hurt the soil for next year?

Heavy sigh. I have so much to learn. But..it is fun.:smile:


<<<LRH *sigh* my marketing isn't so great, I don't seem to have much brand name recognition.laugh

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Fri 07/25/08 10:28 PM
Edited by littleredhen on Fri 07/25/08 10:29 PM


Hi Winx, yes, it's best to remove them, anything you can do to help improve air circulation. (this includes not planting them too close together)

We have a greenhouse, and several years back before my dad passed, we did an experiment. we took cuttings from the healthiest plants, (it was in oct. that year but we have a long growing season) We pinched out the blooms and rooted the plants. We put the two healthiest in a 2' x 4' wooden box about three feet deep. We added 5-10-15 to the potting soil.

When the plants were well established, we removed the blooms from the plant on the right, and left them for the plant on the left. We also added a grow light above them, and put it on a timer to simulate longer days. We upped the fertilizer to 10-60-10, and we kept them watered. This is what we found out...

The plant on the right, outgrew and out produced the plant on the left, although it took longer to produce initially. it fell over onto the bench and produced all winter, more than we could eat. mom even put some up, and we gave away tomatoes all winter, the plant on the left, produced as well but did not grow as large. But from both plants, you could not tell they were greenhouse grown. Reason : high phosphorus.

In the summertime, it became too hot for them to bear, so we removed them...now get this....The plant on the right, which we initially pinched back, measured a staggering 27 feet in length, (and i'm not sure that isn't a record) with a base trunk the width of a golf ball. The other was fifteen feet, w9ith the base about the diameter of a quarter.

I know this is a lengthy read, but it proves a couple of things,,,

Tomatoes can stand higher fertilizers in colder climates, but they need the extra light, a good twelve hours a day, and they can withstand almost freezing temps, if the frost is kept off them.



I am impressed!

markecephus's photo
Fri 07/25/08 11:26 PM

Stick around kiddo, i have more...seriously, we farmed a long time, so growing things is a bit of a passion, i also know a great deal about annual and perennial flowers, shrubs and trees. but don't tell the guys k? laugh

And for cryin out loud Hen, take down the fried chicken pic...every time i see it i get hungry!

no photo
Fri 07/25/08 11:28 PM
Edited by littleredhen on Fri 07/25/08 11:35 PM


Stick around kiddo, i have more...seriously, we farmed a long time, so growing things is a bit of a passion, i also know a great deal about annual and perennial flowers, shrubs and trees. but don't tell the guys k? laugh

And for cryin out loud Hen, take down the fried chicken pic...every time i see it i get hungry!


Glad to see I can have some effect on a man! OK. Fryday is over. How about my gardening picture?

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