Topic: Bush pushes Congress to Drill
Quikstepper's photo
Sat 07/12/08 05:03 AM
Thanks to our do nothing congress who is more concerned with their re election than the prices we are paying at the pumps... bush is doing something to push them to take action...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91RO73O0&show_article=1

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush has prodded Congress to allow oil drilling in offshore waters and in the Alaskan wildlife refuge, citing "tough economic times" for the American people.
Bush went to the Energy Department Friday, where he met with his senior economic advisers to discuss soaring prices for gasoline and crude oil. Bush said one answer is to increase supply in this country by tapping "the vast potential" of crude oil reserves on offshore lands and in Alaska as well as oil shale.

He said Congress must address this issue before it goes home.
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t22learner's photo
Sat 07/12/08 05:19 AM
Yeah, sure, let's keep drilling and polluting the planet with carbon-based fuels, so we suck every penny out for Exxon-Mobil.

I want to see gas prices really high so people will finally demand a change to alternatives.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 05:30 AM
McConfused, while taking the NeoCon Bush's mirror position has called for removing bans that would permit more areas become available for Offshore Oil drilling. Even though Oil companies already hold leases on thousands of acres which they currently never pursue.
Now there is proof from a Gov study that McConfused following Bush's lead conviently choses not to mention to the public!
You judge, why do you think they would fail to mention this?


The projections in the OCS access case indicate that access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030. Leasing would begin no sooner than 2012, and production would not be expected to start before 2017. Total domestic production of crude oil from 2012 through 2030 in the OCS access case is projected to be 1.6 percent higher than in the reference case, and 3 percent higher in 2030 alone, at 5.6 million barrels per day. For the lower 48 OCS, annual crude oil production in 2030 is projected to be 7 percent higher—2.4 million barrels per day in the OCS access case compared with 2.2 million barrels per day in the reference case (Figure 20). Because oil prices are determined on the international market, however, any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.

Similarly, lower 48 natural gas production is not projected to increase substantially by 2030 as a result of increased access to the OCS. Cumulatively, lower 48 natural gas production from 2012 through 2030 is projected to be 1.8 percent higher in the OCS access case than in the reference case. Production levels in the OCS access case are projected at 19.0 trillion cubic feet in 2030, a 3-percent increase over the reference case projection of 18.4 trillion cubic feet. However, natural gas production from the lower 48 offshore in 2030 is projected to be 18 percent (590 billion cubic feet) higher in the OCS access case (Figure 21). In 2030, the OCS access case projects a decrease of $0.13 in the average wellhead price of natural gas (2005 dollars per thousand cubic feet), a decrease of 250 billion cubic feet in imports of liquefied natural gas, and an increase of 360 billion cubic feet in natural gas consumption relative to the reference case projections. In addition, despite the increase in production from previously restricted areas after 2012, total natural gas production from the lower 48 OCS is projected generally to decline after 2020.

Although a significant volume of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil and natural gas resources is added in the OCS access case, conversion of those resources to production would require both time and money. In addition, the average field size in the Pacific and Atlantic regions tends to be smaller than the average in the Gulf of Mexico, implying that a significant portion of the additional resource would not be economically attractive to develop at the reference case prices.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/otheranalysis/ongr.html


Quikstepper's photo
Sat 07/12/08 05:46 AM

Yeah, sure, let's keep drilling and polluting the planet with carbon-based fuels, so we suck every penny out for Exxon-Mobil.

I want to see gas prices really high so people will finally demand a change to alternatives.


I'm for technology too... not nuclear energy... but I know there is technology out there. the problem is that companies like to buy the patten then shelve them.

I'm for free enterprize but that's not what we have going on. Unfortunately...


Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 06:01 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 07/12/08 06:02 AM

McConfused, while taking the NeoCon Bush's mirror position has called for removing bans that would permit more areas become available for Offshore Oil drilling. Even though Oil companies already hold leases on thousands of acres which they currently never pursue.
Now there is proof from a Gov study that McConfused following Bush's lead conviently choses not to mention to the public!
You judge, why do you think they would fail to mention this?


The projections in the OCS access case indicate that access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030. Leasing would begin no sooner than 2012, and production would not be expected to start before 2017. Total domestic production of crude oil from 2012 through 2030 in the OCS access case is projected to be 1.6 percent higher than in the reference case, and 3 percent higher in 2030 alone, at 5.6 million barrels per day. For the lower 48 OCS, annual crude oil production in 2030 is projected to be 7 percent higher—2.4 million barrels per day in the OCS access case compared with 2.2 million barrels per day in the reference case (Figure 20). Because oil prices are determined on the international market, however, any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.

Similarly, lower 48 natural gas production is not projected to increase substantially by 2030 as a result of increased access to the OCS. Cumulatively, lower 48 natural gas production from 2012 through 2030 is projected to be 1.8 percent higher in the OCS access case than in the reference case. Production levels in the OCS access case are projected at 19.0 trillion cubic feet in 2030, a 3-percent increase over the reference case projection of 18.4 trillion cubic feet. However, natural gas production from the lower 48 offshore in 2030 is projected to be 18 percent (590 billion cubic feet) higher in the OCS access case (Figure 21). In 2030, the OCS access case projects a decrease of $0.13 in the average wellhead price of natural gas (2005 dollars per thousand cubic feet), a decrease of 250 billion cubic feet in imports of liquefied natural gas, and an increase of 360 billion cubic feet in natural gas consumption relative to the reference case projections. In addition, despite the increase in production from previously restricted areas after 2012, total natural gas production from the lower 48 OCS is projected generally to decline after 2020.

Although a significant volume of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil and natural gas resources is added in the OCS access case, conversion of those resources to production would require both time and money. In addition, the average field size in the Pacific and Atlantic regions tends to be smaller than the average in the Gulf of Mexico, implying that a significant portion of the additional resource would not be economically attractive to develop at the reference case prices.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/otheranalysis/ongr.html




The NEOCONS feed you a line, and you fall for it hook, line, and sinker!

WAKE UP and read the writing on the wall!

Quikstepper's photo
Sat 07/12/08 06:13 AM


McConfused, while taking the NeoCon Bush's mirror position has called for removing bans that would permit more areas become available for Offshore Oil drilling. Even though Oil companies already hold leases on thousands of acres which they currently never pursue.
Now there is proof from a Gov study that McConfused following Bush's lead conviently choses not to mention to the public!
You judge, why do you think they would fail to mention this?


The projections in the OCS access case indicate that access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030. Leasing would begin no sooner than 2012, and production would not be expected to start before 2017. Total domestic production of crude oil from 2012 through 2030 in the OCS access case is projected to be 1.6 percent higher than in the reference case, and 3 percent higher in 2030 alone, at 5.6 million barrels per day. For the lower 48 OCS, annual crude oil production in 2030 is projected to be 7 percent higher—2.4 million barrels per day in the OCS access case compared with 2.2 million barrels per day in the reference case (Figure 20). Because oil prices are determined on the international market, however, any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.

Similarly, lower 48 natural gas production is not projected to increase substantially by 2030 as a result of increased access to the OCS. Cumulatively, lower 48 natural gas production from 2012 through 2030 is projected to be 1.8 percent higher in the OCS access case than in the reference case. Production levels in the OCS access case are projected at 19.0 trillion cubic feet in 2030, a 3-percent increase over the reference case projection of 18.4 trillion cubic feet. However, natural gas production from the lower 48 offshore in 2030 is projected to be 18 percent (590 billion cubic feet) higher in the OCS access case (Figure 21). In 2030, the OCS access case projects a decrease of $0.13 in the average wellhead price of natural gas (2005 dollars per thousand cubic feet), a decrease of 250 billion cubic feet in imports of liquefied natural gas, and an increase of 360 billion cubic feet in natural gas consumption relative to the reference case projections. In addition, despite the increase in production from previously restricted areas after 2012, total natural gas production from the lower 48 OCS is projected generally to decline after 2020.

Although a significant volume of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil and natural gas resources is added in the OCS access case, conversion of those resources to production would require both time and money. In addition, the average field size in the Pacific and Atlantic regions tends to be smaller than the average in the Gulf of Mexico, implying that a significant portion of the additional resource would not be economically attractive to develop at the reference case prices.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/otheranalysis/ongr.html




The NEOCONS feed you a line, and you fall for it hook, line, and sinker!

WAKE UP and read the writing on the wall!


Well I'm not going to say one way or the other...

...but there are two sides to this...

That's why I say go for the technology.. it's safer & I'd rather see technological advancements come to the forefront. Many companies don't want to change...like the auto industry...they should have jumped all over this long before the crisis started. How about the energy companies too?

Would you stop with the name calling? You have some good ideas but the namecalling! the namecalling...stop it.

t22learner's photo
Sat 07/12/08 06:17 AM
Why won't your boy Bush eliminate the $18B or so in oil company subsidies and divert them to alternatives? What is that genius energy policy of this administration that has resulted in gas/heating oil prices today? Oh, I remember. It was forged by **** Cheney and oil exec's in secret. Its contents have never been released to those paying the bill. Us.

Quikstepper's photo
Sat 07/12/08 06:23 AM

Why won't your boy Bush eliminate the $18B or so in oil company subsidies and divert them to alternatives? What is that genius energy policy of this administration that has resulted in gas/heating oil prices today? Oh, I remember. It was forged by **** Cheney and oil exec's in secret. Its contents have never been released to those paying the bill. Us.


Oh stop it! You know what...the auto industry & the energy industries all put the cabish on it too. These lies about haliburton are just like moldy oldie irrational thinking.

I expect better than the same old lies.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 06:31 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 07/12/08 06:35 AM

Why won't your boy Bush eliminate the $18B or so in oil company subsidies and divert them to alternatives? What is that genius energy policy of this administration that has resulted in gas/heating oil prices today? Oh, I remember. It was forged by **** Cheney and oil exec's in secret. Its contents have never been released to those paying the bill. Us.


What have been his tactics and goals in the past?

He spreads false propaganda towards his personal objectives, while failing to mention to the American Public a GOV Study which shows there is no benefit to more drilling!
Its the ole bait and switch. He baits with lies and switches (distracts) the country's attention away from a real solution. His behavior will cost the country 10 or 15 yrs of progress towards an alternative energy source, while making him and his friends more money!
It also puts a financial strain on the companies and individuals holding patents to the new technologies and makes it easier for the Oil companies to buy these rights at a better price!
Many of those holding the patents have invested millions of their own money and time. If the country doesnt pursue the technology they will turn belly-up and be forced to sell!

Mind of matter!
Bush doesnt mind and the American Public doesnt matter!

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 06:38 AM


Why won't your boy Bush eliminate the $18B or so in oil company subsidies and divert them to alternatives? What is that genius energy policy of this administration that has resulted in gas/heating oil prices today? Oh, I remember. It was forged by **** Cheney and oil exec's in secret. Its contents have never been released to those paying the bill. Us.


Oh stop it! You know what...the auto industry & the energy industries all put the cabish on it too. These lies about haliburton are just like moldy oldie irrational thinking.

I expect better than the same old lies.


And there are too many Sheeple unwilling to research or ackowledge the obvious and too unwittingly eager to help!

Quikstepper's photo
Sat 07/12/08 06:40 AM



Why won't your boy Bush eliminate the $18B or so in oil company subsidies and divert them to alternatives? What is that genius energy policy of this administration that has resulted in gas/heating oil prices today? Oh, I remember. It was forged by **** Cheney and oil exec's in secret. Its contents have never been released to those paying the bill. Us.


Oh stop it! You know what...the auto industry & the energy industries all put the cabish on it too. These lies about haliburton are just like moldy oldie irrational thinking.

I expect better than the same old lies.


And there are too many Sheeple unwilling to research or ackowledge the obvious and too unwittingly eager to help!


You're ridiculous...so much for trying to have any dialogue with you Fanta.

I'm so sorry you have to be this way...I guess you want to be right more than have any discussion. I'll keep that in mind ....

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 07/12/08 06:50 AM
huh Why did you slander me Quikstepper?huh

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 06:54 AM




Why won't your boy Bush eliminate the $18B or so in oil company subsidies and divert them to alternatives? What is that genius energy policy of this administration that has resulted in gas/heating oil prices today? Oh, I remember. It was forged by **** Cheney and oil exec's in secret. Its contents have never been released to those paying the bill. Us.


Oh stop it! You know what...the auto industry & the energy industries all put the cabish on it too. These lies about haliburton are just like moldy oldie irrational thinking.

I expect better than the same old lies.


And there are too many Sheeple unwilling to research or ackowledge the obvious and too unwittingly eager to help!


You're ridiculous...so much for trying to have any dialogue with you Fanta.

I'm so sorry you have to be this way...I guess you want to be right more than have any discussion. I'll keep that in mind ....


Baaaa, Baaaa!!!bigsmile

01tim's photo
Sat 07/12/08 06:56 AM
even if will drill today. it will be at least eight years before we get anything, but since our government nos long before now. that we needed to drill. what have they been doing over the years. about our oil problem nothing. great leaders ha.

Quikstepper's photo
Sun 07/13/08 05:45 AM





Why won't your boy Bush eliminate the $18B or so in oil company subsidies and divert them to alternatives? What is that genius energy policy of this administration that has resulted in gas/heating oil prices today? Oh, I remember. It was forged by **** Cheney and oil exec's in secret. Its contents have never been released to those paying the bill. Us.


Oh stop it! You know what...the auto industry & the energy industries all put the cabish on it too. These lies about haliburton are just like moldy oldie irrational thinking.

I expect better than the same old lies.


And there are too many Sheeple unwilling to research or ackowledge the obvious and too unwittingly eager to help!


You're ridiculous...so much for trying to have any dialogue with you Fanta.

I'm so sorry you have to be this way...I guess you want to be right more than have any discussion. I'll keep that in mind ....


Baaaa, Baaaa!!!bigsmile


Are you looking in the mirror? I have facts on my side...proof Fants PROOF!

Fanta46's photo
Sun 07/13/08 08:21 AM
Proof!

The projections in the OCS access case indicate that access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030. Leasing would begin no sooner than 2012, and production would not be expected to start before 2017. Total domestic production of crude oil from 2012 through 2030 in the OCS access case is projected to be 1.6 percent higher than in the reference case, and 3 percent higher in 2030 alone, at 5.6 million barrels per day. For the lower 48 OCS, annual crude oil production in 2030 is projected to be 7 percent higher—2.4 million barrels per day in the OCS access case compared with 2.2 million barrels per day in the reference case (Figure 20). Because oil prices are determined on the international market, however, any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.

Similarly, lower 48 natural gas production is not projected to increase substantially by 2030 as a result of increased access to the OCS. Cumulatively, lower 48 natural gas production from 2012 through 2030 is projected to be 1.8 percent higher in the OCS access case than in the reference case. Production levels in the OCS access case are projected at 19.0 trillion cubic feet in 2030, a 3-percent increase over the reference case projection of 18.4 trillion cubic feet. However, natural gas production from the lower 48 offshore in 2030 is projected to be 18 percent (590 billion cubic feet) higher in the OCS access case (Figure 21). In 2030, the OCS access case projects a decrease of $0.13 in the average wellhead price of natural gas (2005 dollars per thousand cubic feet), a decrease of 250 billion cubic feet in imports of liquefied natural gas, and an increase of 360 billion cubic feet in natural gas consumption relative to the reference case projections. In addition, despite the increase in production from previously restricted areas after 2012, total natural gas production from the lower 48 OCS is projected generally to decline after 2020.

Although a significant volume of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil and natural gas resources is added in the OCS access case, conversion of those resources to production would require both time and money. In addition, the average field size in the Pacific and Atlantic regions tends to be smaller than the average in the Gulf of Mexico, implying that a significant portion of the additional resource would not be economically attractive to develop at the reference case prices.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/otheranalysis/ongr.html


bluesunflower's photo
Sun 07/13/08 08:27 AM

huh Why did you slander me Quikstepper?huh


im sorry to hear that mirror. thats sad. but i have not got an answer to my question either, so we both shall wait i guess.