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madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 07/09/08 06:16 AM
Truly if the government wished a high approval rateing all they would have to do is put Bush and his controllers on trial for treasone and war crimes. You would hear a round of cheers from the atlantic to the pacific and then accross Europ and Asia, markets would rebound, gas prices would drop and people would be spending money on party hats and HD TV to view the trials and sentencing madman.... There is a person on this site who copies/pastes anything that is deplorable, hateful and denegrates America. This same male person hates the military and has no sympathy for the men and women who have died fighting/defending our country. This same person is always talking about putting Bush on trial for treason. The reality is that the male person who is doing all of these things would be put on trial for treason, if he lived in any other country, but ours. I would say this person is damn lucky to be living in America and if he hates it so much, the ingrate should go to Mexico or some other third world country and spew his hate-filled messages. So, tell me madman .... what do you think of this anti-American guy I am writing about? you make some rather broad and personal assumptions about me, for one I was in the military and I do know the plight of the military and your wrong on other things as well, any western democracy would tolerate my views and much more. Sure the country to our south has a great deal of troubles so why dont we invade them and install a democracy? is that not the mission of our country but thats not how the game is played in south america, we support every right wing dictator we can find and teach them how to crush any discent. sorry I live in the real world and not some propogated un reality. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I never mentioned your name. I suppose this is a case "If the shoe fits, wear it," and you have acknowledged the shoe fits. Oh please verry lame so why do you think america hasnt aggresivly pursued a pro democracy policy in south america? after all its our own back yard?

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Wed 07/09/08 07:31 AM Edited by leahmarie on Wed 07/09/08 07:50 AM
"Oh please verry lame so why do you think america hasnt aggresivly pursued a pro democracy policy in south america? after all its our own back yard?" MADMAN, I COPIED AND PASTED YOUR QUOTE ABOVE SO OTHERS WILL KNOW WHAT I AM REFERRING TO. ****************************************************************************** So, you want to know why America hasn't pursued a pro-democracy policy in South America? I believe the answer to this would take a political science expert, which I am not, but I will try to answer your question. Madman, attempting to make all Latin American countries Democratic is a formidable task since Latin America is a diverse and heterogeneous continent. I realize that a majority share a common language (Spanish), a common religion (Catholic) and a Colonial History. However, when you look at Latin America it is a region of profound cultural, social and geopolitical diversity. There is so much involved in introducing Democracy. For instance civilian supremacy over the military is an essential requisite of democracy. Then the people have to be committed to the process of Democracy by way of elections. However, before the above can take place anti-corruption reform and the administration of justice must be in place. This is especially important in order to protect human rights. Additionally, a measure of economic prosperity is necessary, because the inequality of income and wealth and social exclusion makes it hard for Democracy to thrive, let alone survive. Of course, in order to achieve a level of economic prosperity, foreign aid is necessary. For example, aid in the form of US dollars is a must in order to build roads/bridges/and the like so farmers can transport their goods and sell them in order to be economically successful. More aid is necessary in the form of health care and education. These reforms must take place since many in Latin America are suffering from significant levels of poverty and inequality. Bush commited to pursuing pro-democracy for Latin America during his second term with the establishment of the "Community of Democracies," which has become an important venue for democracies. However, America's involvement in this forum went to the back burner when Bush put the "War on Terror" to the forefront. I believe our president is more involved in fighting terror to keep America safe rather than fighting for Democracy in Latin America. Sorry I can't give you a more extensive and profound answer, but as I stated above, I am not a political science expert. Perhaps we have one on the site who could expound on my answer?

paul40 Joined Sun 03/02/08 Posts: 356	Wed 07/09/08 07:50 AM
Truly if the government wished a high approval rateing all they would have to do is put Bush and his controllers on trial for treasone and war crimes. You would hear a round of cheers from the atlantic to the pacific and then accross Europ and Asia, markets would rebound, gas prices would drop and people would be spending money on party hats and HD TV to view the trials and sentencing Far-fetched mistruth. Seriously, such a thing would cause turmoil and uncertainties that would send the markets into a huge down slide. Markets would tumble. Your assumption has no precedence with history. The trial of one of the President of one of the biggest trade partners throughout the world, threaten trade deals and so forth, would cause great uncertainties. Uncertainty always sends the markets in a downward spiral. It didn't when Lewinsky got caught sucking a Billy-pop and he was threatened with impeachment. Bush IS a war criminal and a very stupid one at that When a moron criminal heads a nation what can you say about this nation ?. .

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Wed 07/09/08 09:46 AM
Truly if the government wished a high approval rateing all they would have to do is put Bush and his controllers on trial for treasone and war crimes. You would hear a round of cheers from the atlantic to the pacific and then accross Europ and Asia, markets would rebound, gas prices would drop and people would be spending money on party hats and HD TV to view the trials and sentencing Far-fetched mistruth. Seriously, such a thing would cause turmoil and uncertainties that would send the markets into a huge down slide. Markets would tumble. Your assumption has no precedence with history. The trial of one of the President of one of the biggest trade partners throughout the world, threaten trade deals and so forth, would cause great uncertainties. Uncertainty always sends the markets in a downward spiral. It didn't when Lewinsky got caught sucking a Billy-pop and he was threatened with impeachment. Bush IS a war criminal and a very stupid one at that When a moron criminal heads a nation what can you say about this nation ?. .

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Wed 07/09/08 10:46 AM
Fanta ....... I agree with your thinking in that when a moron like Bill Clinton heads the nation, it doesn't say much for the country. Let's hope the people have enough sense to keep Obama out of the presidential office.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 07/09/08 11:27 AM
Fanta ....... I agree with your thinking in that when a moron like Bill Clinton heads the nation, it doesn't say much for the country. Let's hope the people have enough sense to keep Obama out of the presidential office. I think this is a MCcain thread maybeyou should start a thread about Clinton?

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Wed 07/09/08 11:55 AM
Damn Republicans

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Wed 07/09/08 11:58 AM Edited by leahmarie on Wed 07/09/08 12:10 PM
"Oh please verry lame so why do you think america hasnt aggresivly pursued a pro democracy policy in south america? after all its our own back yard?" MADMAN, I COPIED AND PASTED YOUR QUOTE ABOVE SO OTHERS WILL KNOW WHAT I AM REFERRING TO. ****************************************************************************** So, you want to know why America hasn't pursued a pro-democracy policy in South America? I believe the answer to this would take a political science expert, which I am not, but I will try to answer your question. Madman, attempting to make all Latin American countries Democratic is a formidable task since Latin America is a diverse and heterogeneous continent. I realize that a majority share a common language (Spanish), a common religion (Catholic) and a Colonial History. However, when you look at Latin America it is a region of profound cultural, social and geopolitical diversity. There is so much involved in introducing Democracy. For instance civilian supremacy over the military is an essential requisite of democracy. Then the people have to be committed to the process of Democracy by way of elections. However, before the above can take place anti-corruption reform and the administration of justice must be in place. This is especially important in order to protect human rights. Additionally, a measure of economic prosperity is necessary, because the inequality of income and wealth and social exclusion makes it hard for Democracy to thrive, let alone survive. Of course, in order to achieve a level of economic prosperity, foreign aid is necessary. For example, aid in the form of US dollars is a must in order to build roads/bridges/and the like so farmers can transport their goods and sell them in order to be economically successful. More aid is necessary in the form of health care and education. These reforms must take place since many in Latin America are suffering from significant levels of poverty and inequality. Bush commited to pursuing pro-democracy for Latin America during his second term with the establishment of the "Community of Democracies," which has become an important venue for democracies. However, America's involvement in this forum went to the back burner when Bush put the "War on Terror" to the forefront. I believe our president is more involved in fighting terror to keep America safe rather than fighting for Democracy in Latin America. Sorry I can't give you a more extensive and profound answer, but as I stated above, I am not a political science expert. Perhaps we have one on the site who could expound on my answer? madman ..... I replied to your query and note you have not made a comment. You ask a question but offer no contribution, which proves you are a typical left liberal. Your thinking is all screwed up. Also, you probably know nothing about the topic.

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Wed 07/09/08 12:08 PM
Damn Republicans Fanta.......Fanta...... You are so confused. Well let me set you straight. It is damn Democrats.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Wed 07/09/08 12:09 PM
What's to comment? Is this the joke thread?

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Wed 07/09/08 12:11 PM
"Oh please verry lame so why do you think america hasnt aggresivly pursued a pro democracy policy in south america? after all its our own back yard?" MADMAN, I COPIED AND PASTED YOUR QUOTE ABOVE SO OTHERS WILL KNOW WHAT I AM REFERRING TO. ****************************************************************************** So, you want to know why America hasn't pursued a pro-democracy policy in South America? I believe the answer to this would take a political science expert, which I am not, but I will try to answer your question. Madman, attempting to make all Latin American countries Democratic is a formidable task since Latin America is a diverse and heterogeneous continent. I realize that a majority share a common language (Spanish), a common religion (Catholic) and a Colonial History. However, when you look at Latin America it is a region of profound cultural, social and geopolitical diversity. There is so much involved in introducing Democracy. For instance civilian supremacy over the military is an essential requisite of democracy. Then the people have to be committed to the process of Democracy by way of elections. However, before the above can take place anti-corruption reform and the administration of justice must be in place. This is especially important in order to protect human rights. Additionally, a measure of economic prosperity is necessary, because the inequality of income and wealth and social exclusion makes it hard for Democracy to thrive, let alone survive. Of course, in order to achieve a level of economic prosperity, foreign aid is necessary. For example, aid in the form of US dollars is a must in order to build roads/bridges/and the like so farmers can transport their goods and sell them in order to be economically successful. More aid is necessary in the form of health care and education. These reforms must take place since many in Latin America are suffering from significant levels of poverty and inequality. Bush commited to pursuing pro-democracy for Latin America during his second term with the establishment of the "Community of Democracies," which has become an important venue for democracies. However, America's involvement in this forum went to the back burner when Bush put the "War on Terror" to the forefront. I believe our president is more involved in fighting terror to keep America safe rather than fighting for Democracy in Latin America. Sorry I can't give you a more extensive and profound answer, but as I stated above, I am not a political science expert. Perhaps we have one on the site who could expound on my answer? madman ..... I replied to your query and note you have not made a comment. You ask a question but offer no contribution, which proves you are a typical left liberal. Your thinking is all screwed up. I am sorry all you can do is insult or be insulting. I find that answer unsatisfactory for what exactly leads to terrorism? is it a people with no voice moved to desperate measures to be heard? I am sure that is part of it, so democracy promotion would and should be high on our agenda. Your comments alone and how you speak to people show me your contempt for democracy and free speach

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Wed 07/09/08 12:21 PM
"Oh please verry lame so why do you think america hasnt aggresivly pursued a pro democracy policy in south america? after all its our own back yard?" MADMAN, I COPIED AND PASTED YOUR QUOTE ABOVE SO OTHERS WILL KNOW WHAT I AM REFERRING TO. ****************************************************************************** So, you want to know why America hasn't pursued a pro-democracy policy in South America? I believe the answer to this would take a political science expert, which I am not, but I will try to answer your question. Madman, attempting to make all Latin American countries Democratic is a formidable task since Latin America is a diverse and heterogeneous continent. I realize that a majority share a common language (Spanish), a common religion (Catholic) and a Colonial History. However, when you look at Latin America it is a region of profound cultural, social and geopolitical diversity. There is so much involved in introducing Democracy. For instance civilian supremacy over the military is an essential requisite of democracy. Then the people have to be committed to the process of Democracy by way of elections. However, before the above can take place anti-corruption reform and the administration of justice must be in place. This is especially important in order to protect human rights. Additionally, a measure of economic prosperity is necessary, because the inequality of income and wealth and social exclusion makes it hard for Democracy to thrive, let alone survive. Of course, in order to achieve a level of economic prosperity, foreign aid is necessary. For example, aid in the form of US dollars is a must in order to build roads/bridges/and the like so farmers can transport their goods and sell them in order to be economically successful. More aid is necessary in the form of health care and education. These reforms must take place since many in Latin America are suffering from significant levels of poverty and inequality. Bush commited to pursuing pro-democracy for Latin America during his second term with the establishment of the "Community of Democracies," which has become an important venue for democracies. However, America's involvement in this forum went to the back burner when Bush put the "War on Terror" to the forefront. I believe our president is more involved in fighting terror to keep America safe rather than fighting for Democracy in Latin America. Sorry I can't give you a more extensive and profound answer, but as I stated above, I am not a political science expert. Perhaps we have one on the site who could expound on my answer? madman ..... I replied to your query and note you have not made a comment. You ask a question but offer no contribution, which proves you are a typical left liberal. Your thinking is all screwed up. I am sorry all you can do is insult or be insulting. I find that answer unsatisfactory for what exactly leads to terrorism? is it a people with no voice moved to desperate measures to be heard? I am sure that is part of it, so democracy promotion would and should be high on our agenda. Your comments alone and how you speak to people show me your contempt for democracy and free speach Madman....... You find my answer unsatisfactory, but you cannot add to it other than to denegrate me. Madman, you and Fanta are two of a kind in that both of you do nothing but post calumnies, exaggerations, innuendo, evasions and outright fabrications. I will leave you to your anti-American rhetoric. I am going back to work.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Wed 07/09/08 12:23 PM
Excuse me, but is this the punch-line?? calumnies?

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Wed 07/09/08 12:25 PM Edited by Fanta46 on Wed 07/09/08 12:37 PM
Are you sure its calumnies, or is it calumniate?? Or is it calumnious or calumny? Either way, I have yet to make a false statement or attempt to slander your reputation! I have however caught you and the rest of Lindy's Blind Patrol doing so many times! I believe this equates to the Pot calling the kettle black! Or are you being calumnious? Shall I give an example?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 07/09/08 12:47 PM
Truly if the government wished a high approval rateing all they would have to do is put Bush and his controllers on trial for treasone and war crimes. You would hear a round of cheers from the atlantic to the pacific and then accross Europ and Asia, markets would rebound, gas prices would drop and people would be spending money on party hats and HD TV to view the trials and sentencing Far-fetched mistruth. Seriously, such a thing would cause turmoil and uncertainties that would send the markets into a huge downslide. Markets would tumble. Your assumption has no precedence with history. The trial of one of the President of one of the biggest trade partners throughout the world, threaten trade deals and so forth, would cause great uncertainties. Uncertainty always sends the markets in a downward spiral. Let the damn markets tumble. They are nothing more than a gambling casino for the filthy filthy rich who manipulate them behind the scenes to transfer the wealth to the evil banksters in power. Let the markets crash. JB

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Wed 07/09/08 08:18 PM
Are you sure its calumnies, or is it calumniate?? Or is it calumnious or calumny? Either way, I have yet to make a false statement or attempt to slander your reputation! I have however caught you and the rest of Lindy's Blind Patrol doing so many times! I believe this equates to the Pot calling the kettle black! Or are you being calumnious? Shall I give an example? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Obviously, you need an English lesson. However, I no longer teach at the University; so I cannot help you out. Okay you don't make false statements; you believe the dribble that comes out of your mouth. So, I suppose believing your own lies would equate to not making false statements. Lindyy's Blind Patrol?? Never heard of it .... or is that one of your fabrications? (since you do not make false statements) Pot calling the kettle black? Be careful. We are in a politically correct world.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Fri 07/11/08 05:22 AM
Are you sure its calumnies, or is it calumniate?? Or is it calumnious or calumny? Either way, I have yet to make a false statement or attempt to slander your reputation! I have however caught you and the rest of Lindy's Blind Patrol doing so many times! I believe this equates to the Pot calling the kettle black! Or are you being calumnious? Shall I give an example? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Obviously, you need an English lesson. However, I no longer teach at the University; so I cannot help you out. Okay you don't make false statements; you believe the dribble that comes out of your mouth. So, I suppose believing your own lies would equate to not making false statements. Lindyy's Blind Patrol?? Never heard of it .... or is that one of your fabrications? (since you do not make false statements) Pot calling the kettle black? Be careful. We are in a politically correct world. I susspect you were drummed out of teaching for possibly being insane as your rants on here are hardly the product of education nor do they have any bearing on reality. at first I felt sorry for you for being so misguided and then you called yourself a teacher and then I felt ashamed

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Fri 07/11/08 06:37 AM Edited by leahmarie on Fri 07/11/08 06:38 AM
Are you sure its calumnies, or is it calumniate?? Or is it calumnious or calumny? Either way, I have yet to make a false statement or attempt to slander your reputation! I have however caught you and the rest of Lindy's Blind Patrol doing so many times! I believe this equates to the Pot calling the kettle black! Or are you being calumnious? Shall I give an example? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Obviously, you need an English lesson. However, I no longer teach at the University; so I cannot help you out. Okay you don't make false statements; you believe the dribble that comes out of your mouth. So, I suppose believing your own lies would equate to not making false statements. Lindyy's Blind Patrol?? Never heard of it .... or is that one of your fabrications? (since you do not make false statements) Pot calling the kettle black? Be careful. We are in a politically correct world. I susspect you were drummed out of teaching for possibly being insane as your rants on here are hardly the product of education nor do they have any bearing on reality. at first I felt sorry for you for being so misguided and then you called yourself a teacher and then I felt ashamed I left teaching .... not enough money .... went into Human Resources .... it costs money to send two children to college .... By the way madman .... what do you know about education/teaching? It is obvious you are an elementary school drop out .... how far did you get? Fifth grade?

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sat 07/12/08 02:35 AM
I have never cared for the school system in any way and take less care in my typing and spelling on a forum. Who realy does except those who are anal? I suppose if you need to one up me that would be the way to do it. despite your vast skills you continue to blinbd yourself to the disaster that is america so Ican only assume your either a verry stupid person who can type and carries around a dictionary or an avid user of spell check. I realy am starting to suspect many of you are just paid shrills for the republican spin machine because no one can be so daft as to ignore the disaster that has been the bush presidency from Bagdad to new orleans nothing but failure. How can you be proud to call yourself a republican and just a small FYI despite all the bluster a women can still choose an abortion so even that effort has failed, about the only thing the republicans did do is rape our treasury and pass it out to the oil and war industries.

leahmarie Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1482	Sat 07/12/08 04:15 AM
I have never cared for the school system in any way and take less care in my typing and spelling on a forum. Who realy does except those who are anal? I suppose if you need to one up me that would be the way to do it. despite your vast skills you continue to blinbd yourself to the disaster that is america so Ican only assume your either a verry stupid person who can type and carries around a dictionary or an avid user of spell check. I realy am starting to suspect many of you are just paid shrills for the republican spin machine because no one can be so daft as to ignore the disaster that has been the bush presidency from Bagdad to new orleans nothing but failure. How can you be proud to call yourself a republican and just a small FYI despite all the bluster a women can still choose an abortion so even that effort has failed, about the only thing the republicans did do is rape our treasury and pass it out to the oil and war industries. Madman..... It is obvious that you are the fifth grade drop out I suspected you are, because if you weren't you would realize being educated is not about "typing and spelling on a forum", as you so ineptly describe it. So America is a "disaster" according to you? Most definitely, you need to go back to school and take a course in America Studies to teach you what our country is about. In connection with the insane rhetoric you have posted above, let me help you out. I and any other person who purports him/herself to be a Republican is/are not "daft," as you state. It is you who are "daft" with this paranoid talk of us being the so-called "paid shrills for the republican spin machine" and your "bluster[about].....abortion .... [and] rape." Madman .... read what you have posted. Good grief. You are really going off the deep end. You said you were leaving the site. Please do so and check yourself into a mental health facility immediately before you lose it completely.