HERE'S A ARTICLE FROM BENJAMIN FRANKLIN"

As the American colonies rose in revolt against political oppression occasioned by the attempt of Jewish banking houses in Europe to consolidate their economic foothold in the New World, no man among the Founding Fathers was more alert to the designs of international Jewry than that shrewd elder statesman of the American Revolution, Benjamin Franklin. Perhaps Ben Franklin's most damning indictment of Jewry was contained in his famous prophecy at the Constitutional Convention of 1787 in Philadelphia. In one of the most anti-Jewish utterances of all time, he declared:

"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. That menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation was founded by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal. For over 1700 hundred years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But, gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only amongst themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race. If you do not exclude them from these United States in the Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land, and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance, and jeopardized our liberty. If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention."

Franklin's remarks were recorded in "Chit Chat Around the Table During Intermissions," a section of the Diary of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina. Pinckney (1746-1825) attended the Convention as a delegate, and took down excerpts of some of the outstanding addresses and discourses, which he later published in his diary. Perhaps the best proof of the Franklin prophecy---as with any prophecy---lies in its actual fulfillment. What Benjamin Franklin foresaw as an ominous possibility in 1787 has today---a little over two hundred years later---become painful reality.

MOST ZIONIST WILL SAY IT IS A HOAX.

What do you believe this is true or a false document?

sorry but Franklin was never a President

Today we have the zionists , the neo cons ,the Hawks and Israel in control of the American Administration and taking it from one disaster to another and from one unjust war to another . If McCain wins ,he will continue Bush agenda in wars and destruction .

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/franklin_prophecy/franklin_intro.asp

oh c'mon
this is a stupid 2nd rate fraud as documented in the link above.
really smiles - snope it out first man!!

The money-changer fur's gonna fly when Jesus returns!

I didn't confirm it to be true. I just wanted to see opinion about it and if it were true. Thank you for the link as I am reading it now.

Hence I wrote at the bottom: What do you believe?

im not sure of what franklin is a father of

did he invent the bottle warmer

was he irish

i havent done a whole lot of research or anything

i guess i could say my experience with some jewish people was that we learned some things from one another

i respect their family values

Way to go slowhand! Yeah for SNOPES!

I never had a problem with Jewish people. I know a few down here in Miami and all are nice to me.

Benjamin Franklin invented and did alot for this country. Read about him. He is a very interesting read.

first franklin was never president. (besides the other horrendous ideas in this article)

I didn't confirm it to be true. I just wanted to see opinion about it and if it were true. Thank you for the link as I am reading it now.

Hence I wrote at the bottom: What do you believe it to be true or false document?

He invented the Fire Department, the Library, the Lightning rod, the battery, the basic ideas behind electricity, the farmers almanac, and so on.

That isn't a quote from Benjamin Franklin. You didn't present the possibility that it wasn't truly stated by him. I really wish you would stop these trolling threads, they don't belong in civilized conversations.

Explain Dude .

Changed it to article just for you. Satisified. Besides who are you to say what I should post?? Civilized conversations?? I suspect you are one of those who can conduct a civilized conversation by preaching from the bible and claiming to be true accounts and not hear other possibilities. I also sense you don't like debates as it gets you a bit edgy.

Just trying to point out that Franklin was never president so that would mean that the other information in the article was also suspect. I just wasn't sure when each persons words began.
I don't think it helps anyone in this day and age to be putting forth ridiculous ideas like the ones raised in the artical.

It's NOT an article by Benjamin Franklin, it's a flat out LIE. Franklin didn't say those things. So change it to "Quote" or "Article" or "Poem" or "Soliloquy" or whatever, it's still not true. That "statement" is a lie, it was never spoken or written by Benjamin Franklin. It was written by a Nazi sympathizer in the 1930's.

Your reading comprehension isn't as good as it needs to be, I didn't tell you want you should post, I posted that I wish you would stop making trolling threads. They are annoying and pointless. If you were to change the OP so that it was clear that the statements were not made by Benjamin Franklin it would be one thing, but you haven't done so. Anyone reading your OP will believe that to be an actual quote from B.F. Maybe it fits your agenda to post debunked hate speech, but debunked hate speech has no place in a polite discussion of religion.

Since when reality and the truth are a mere ridiculous idea ?.

I never confirmed it to be a truth either. I asked in the end what do you believe this to be as I wanted a answer for it.

Now slowhand found the answer for me as he gave a link and others gave their opinions. So it was a great thread to me.

Perhaps if you didn't like it, you could have just say it is a lie and ended it with that, but instead you ask me to stop posting hate threads. Many believe my threads are educational and give good reason to have a debate over it.

Now if my threads are annoying, pointless, or uncivilized then don't read them. It is that easy!

By wishing someone to stop posting threads is like saying get lost.

This is what I usually do. If I don't like the thread I just don't reply or go somewhere else. If I say it isn't true then in a way that wouldn't offend anyone.

Revisionist history. You presented it as fact and wrote "What do you think?". There was no mention that the whole thing was quoted from another website, which is anti-zionist / anti-Jew in nature.



To me a great thread would include a bit more than copy/paste hate speech and someone pointing out that it's a hoax. That doesn't seem like a lot to keep your interest. If Harry Potter had met Voldemort in the first book and then found out that Voldemort was just a kid with a halloween mask, we wouldn't have five movies and seven books and JKR would be flat broke. The book wouldn't have been published. So I guess we have vastly different ideas of what would make a "good thread".



1) It's not a question of "liking" it. Even if I liked the quote and agreed with it, it's still a lie. It's a question of honesty in posting. I have posted articles that I later found to be false and I posted as such. You simply modified your post to make it a little bit more confusing. "HERE'S A ARTICLE FROM BENJAMIN FRANKLIN"? It's a hoax, it's not an article by B.F.
2) "instead you ask me to stop posting hate threads." -- Strawman fallacy.
3) There is no reason to debate a hoax. Once it's outed as a hoax, the debate should end.



They are all three, what should I do?



I didn't wish you would quit posting, I wished you would stop posting trolling threads.