You make a good point. The consumers control the market. The only problem is people need to actually make a lifestyle change (by not being so wasteful). This requires self responsibility. My big problem is when these dems are trying hard to push for socialization (which nationalization is a big step towards), they are trying to take responsibility away from the people and give it to the government. I guess that's kinda the point i've been trying to make all along. Wouldn't it be cool if communities got together and actually started growing a lot of their own food? Or how about making biofuel or something of that nature. Maybe started car pooling? Uh oh, then people would actually have to get involved!!!