Topic: Frustrated With Needy Disabled Friend
oldsage's photo
Sun 06/15/08 10:38 AM
As I understand this, supplying "weed", alone is a criminal offense. Best look at the legal issues & get this under control. There are alot more issues here than helping someone.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 06/15/08 10:59 AM
I believe weed relieves the symptoms of ms but this sounds like a scared lady who is suffering from depression and anxiety.she definetly needs help but the right kind.Call your local social services and see what help is out there.she is eligible for housing,food stamps etc.Have a sit down with her and tell her you are willing to help her become independent but there will be no more hand outs.Tough love is sometimes the best kind.

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Sun 06/15/08 11:12 AM

I believe weed relieves the symptoms of ms but this sounds like a scared lady who is suffering from depression and anxiety.she definetly needs help but the right kind.Call your local social services and see what help is out there.she is eligible for housing,food stamps etc.Have a sit down with her and tell her you are willing to help her become independent but there will be no more hand outs.Tough love is sometimes the best kind.


yeah, she has told me that the weed & nicotene help her with relaxing nerve/brain receptors.I have been trying to talk with her but she will not listen.

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Sun 06/15/08 12:46 PM

About a yr. ago we hired a very nice woman with a disability (MS)she is a lovely person at all counts. At the time she was being evicted from her apartment (4 months behind on her rent). We all helped her all we could (move to new place,money, food ect.)Its not even a year later.... and she is being evicted again,she constantly complains of no money or food . She is forever borrowing & crying about her situation.
I have tried to gently talk to her about getting help from social services...and she refuses as she thinks she will end up in a nursing facility because of her disability.She for the most part does well at her job..except she can manage to work only about 16 hrs a week. My boss will not let her go because he is worried about her.She is in debt with him. She tries to be independant and almost refuses her disability. We are all growing weary of helping her.
any advice?

Do you know if she is receiving social security disablilty...not state...federal. How can anyone support themself on 16 hours a week of work?

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Sun 06/15/08 02:33 PM


Do you know if she is receiving social security disablilty...not state...federal. How can anyone support themself on 16 hours a week of work?


no she is not..she refuses to apply for any kind of help..evidently she is on a housing assistant waiting list(Belmont) she recieves food stamps along with her wages.
Thats just it she cannot support herself but I am figuring out that she lied to her landlord and said she works fulltime..that is why she is struggling with everything.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 06/15/08 02:51 PM
she sounds like she needs to learn the hard way which is too bad.brokenheart

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Sun 06/15/08 03:46 PM
She shouldn't be asking people to help get her weed..I have severe pain every day of my life and have never asked anyone to do that..thats onlt gonna cause trouble for everyone involved.

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Sun 06/15/08 04:48 PM



Do you know if she is receiving social security disablilty...not state...federal. How can anyone support themself on 16 hours a week of work?


no she is not..she refuses to apply for any kind of help..evidently she is on a housing assistant waiting list(Belmont) she recieves food stamps along with her wages.
Thats just it she cannot support herself but I am figuring out that she lied to her landlord and said she works fulltime..that is why she is struggling with everything.

It sounds like she is in denial about her MS. Otherwise, you would think that she would be applying for other aid that she needs. You can't make her accept it. Sounds like she will have to learn the hard way. You just don't keep asking people for money. It's one thing if people want to help, but another to keep imposing on others for money. The strange thing is she applied for food stamps and housing assistance. I wonder if she even has MS?

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Sun 06/15/08 04:55 PM


I am the first to step in and help someone when it is needed...but I experienced a situation like this not to long ago and I came to the conclusion that this person would not help herself because everyone was doing it for her...the hardest thing we had to do was to stop.....she has managed to get back on her feet and actually recovered very well...now remember we did not throw her to the wolfs, we just aided her in a different way...I hope that helps a little....


We couldn't throw her to the wolves as she is a good person but... it's almost like she is manipulating us.


She's working you all alright, most charities would tell you to teach the person how to help themselves, teach a man how to fish,not catch the fish for him.Maybe you and your co-workers could make enquries of agency who teach the disable the skills needed to survive on their own.

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Sun 06/15/08 06:26 PM



I am the first to step in and help someone when it is needed...but I experienced a situation like this not to long ago and I came to the conclusion that this person would not help herself because everyone was doing it for her...the hardest thing we had to do was to stop.....she has managed to get back on her feet and actually recovered very well...now remember we did not throw her to the wolfs, we just aided her in a different way...I hope that helps a little....


We couldn't throw her to the wolves as she is a good person but... it's almost like she is manipulating us.


She's working you all alright, most charities would tell you to teach the person how to help themselves, teach a man how to fish,not catch the fish for him.Maybe you and your co-workers could make enquries of agency who teach the disable the skills needed to survive on their own.

There aren't many places/agencies that will help a person until they hit rock bottom..at least thats how it was with me..I had been using the same wheelchair since I was in 8th grade all the way up til I was 27..No one bothered to even listen until the chair got so old that it wore pressure sores into me.

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Mon 06/16/08 04:32 PM



There aren't many places/agencies that will help a person until they hit rock bottom..at least thats how it was with me..I had been using the same wheelchair since I was in 8th grade all the way up til I was 27..No one bothered to even listen until the chair got so old that it wore pressure sores into me.



Sorry that happened to you Lady...I am really trying to listen to this person but, the help she needs she will not go after...Today I listened to her telling her land lord that she will come up with the rent somehow..then she went on crying and telling him she has been very ill. I asked her why she would say that to him and she said it will buy her more time to stay in the apartment. Something is not right with her ,its alomost like she uses her own disability to play people.

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Mon 06/16/08 05:33 PM




There aren't many places/agencies that will help a person until they hit rock bottom..at least thats how it was with me..I had been using the same wheelchair since I was in 8th grade all the way up til I was 27..No one bothered to even listen until the chair got so old that it wore pressure sores into me.



Sorry that happened to you Lady...I am really trying to listen to this person but, the help she needs she will not go after...Today I listened to her telling her land lord that she will come up with the rent somehow..then she went on crying and telling him she has been very ill. I asked her why she would say that to him and she said it will buy her more time to stay in the apartment. Something is not right with her ,its alomost like she uses her own disability to play people.

Are you sure she really has a disability. From what I have read she lies. How do you know she is not lying and playing you?
Just food for thought.

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Mon 06/16/08 05:36 PM
Edited by creationsfire on Mon 06/16/08 05:37 PM

I think a lot of posters to this topic have already said that that is the case. It is as obvious as the nose on your face and she needs to learn that crying and lying are not going to get her what she wants. If she is lying and crying to the landlord, what the hell do you think she is telling you?

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Mon 06/16/08 05:45 PM
obviously... she is lying
....and yes she does have a disability ..I have seen her have mild siezures..I have helped her up off the floor afterwards. I was merely asking opinions...and discussing the situation..sorry if I have irked anyone.

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Mon 06/16/08 06:06 PM
Perhaps you need to have an office meeting. So everyone is on the same page and 'everyone' will say no to her when she asks again. She will cry and maybe even lash out verbally, but if everyone stays together on this, she will quickly learn. I'm not saying it will be easy but if y'all are together in your effort - it will be easier.

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Mon 06/16/08 06:51 PM

obviously... she is lying
....and yes she does have a disability ..I have seen her have mild siezures..I have helped her up off the floor afterwards. I was merely asking opinions...and discussing the situation..sorry if I have irked anyone.


You have not irked anyone I dont't think, jus that we can see that she is obviously causing trouble, no matter what her problems, and using you and everyone else you have mentioned. Seizures are easy to fake. I've seen actors in my daughters troop do it. If she is as good at manipilating with the crying and lying then she could be faking. Just keep that in mind. I really dislike users, handicapped or not. And if I seem irked it is not at you but what is happening to you. I think we all just want to help, but really all the suggestions are about the same. Make her stop or get rid of her. If others want to oblige her tantrums, well let them then, but if it were me, well I would cut her off cold turkey. She wants to use the phone and you say no, make HER go ask the higher ups. You are being way too nice.

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Mon 06/16/08 06:55 PM
Edited by LadyOfMagic on Mon 06/16/08 06:56 PM




There aren't many places/agencies that will help a person until they hit rock bottom..at least thats how it was with me..I had been using the same wheelchair since I was in 8th grade all the way up til I was 27..No one bothered to even listen until the chair got so old that it wore pressure sores into me.



Sorry that happened to you Lady...I am really trying to listen to this person but, the help she needs she will not go after...Today I listened to her telling her land lord that she will come up with the rent somehow..then she went on crying and telling him she has been very ill. I asked her why she would say that to him and she said it will buy her more time to stay in the apartment. Something is not right with her ,its alomost like she uses her own disability to play people.

Are you sure she really has a disability. From what I have read she lies. How do you know she is not lying and playing you?
Just food for thought.

Things like seizures CAN be faked..I've seen it happen..People try to fake out the system all the time and most of the time it works..but I actually don't think she's faking..If she were I think she'd pick a bigger "cow to milk" so to speak..like the government..I've seen people go into the SSI office and tell them that they can't work so they need help from them and then spend the rest of the week partying like everything is all good..but seeing as how she doesn't wanna bother the system..I don't see the faking part of it..She works..If she really wanted to use somebody she wouldn't even bother working..no matter how few hours it is.

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Mon 06/16/08 07:20 PM
It took me 1 1/2 years and tons of paperwork and an attorney to get on SSI. I think she IS taking the easy way out. SSI is damned hard to get and if you know someone who knows how to waltze right in and get something from them, I'd like to know how they do it. I've been on it for a while, but I have worked and gone to college while on it. I never *****ed and moaned, or begged borrowed or stole for anything. She is taking the easy way. Get it fast and free. All she has to do is act like a baby, and be helplessly feeble. She is getting off easy.

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Mon 06/16/08 08:55 PM
I was diagnoised with MS 8 years ago. I have NEVER had a seizure. This woman has more than MS. She has a case that SHE needs to take to a Disability Lawyer. Most do not charge for treir service until she is awarded SSI.
My MS is not bad enough to get a claim , I still work full days, but mine is slowly getting worse. There is no cure for MS, and the meds just slow the progression of the desease.(My injections cost $1400.00 per moth to the insurance co., Does she have health insurance???)
There are 4 types of MS. Ck out www.MS.org. for more info, or e-mail me.

Good luck!!!

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Mon 06/16/08 09:21 PM

About a yr. ago we hired a very nice woman with a disability (MS)she is a lovely person at all counts. At the time she was being evicted from her apartment (4 months behind on her rent). We all helped her all we could (move to new place,money, food ect.)Its not even a year later.... and she is being evicted again,she constantly complains of no money or food . She is forever borrowing & crying about her situation.
I have tried to gently talk to her about getting help from social services...and she refuses as she thinks she will end up in a nursing facility because of her disability.She for the most part does well at her job..except she can manage to work only about 16 hrs a week. My boss will not let her go because he is worried about her.She is in debt with him. She tries to be independant and almost refuses her disability. We are all growing weary of helping her.
any advice?


I was diagnosed with MS in 2002. MS is a very confusing disease both for the person going through it and those around them. First, you can tell her that applying for disability will not get her placed in a home. Our families or ourselves place us in homes, disability does not.

She may be having alot of cognitive changes causing her to not pay her bills correctly. My cognitive changes make me very very forgetful at times and I have forgotten to pay a bill and spent the money before noticing it was not paid. These cognitive changes can be minor or major and people who have them usually do not notice they have them.

I would recommend that she go back to the doc and take someone with her who can help the doc know what is going on with her if she is unable to see what she is doing.

There are alot of different things going on with an MS person and not all of them are the same. Some get hit hard, some the changes are more physical, others more cognitive and emotional. The point here is one MS person cannot necessarily say what another is going through because of the differences.

Of course, lastly but not leastly, she may actually be a person who is manipulating those around her for her own selfish purposes. The only way to know this is to stop helping her and see what happens.

I hope this helps.