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Topic: The more I know the less I know
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Sun 06/01/08 12:48 PM



I'll pose my origanol question again....

What makes people's self-esteem get so low?
:heart: So many other loves or people putting THEM down and or lying to them about their love. Then making THEM feel low
ITS MY FAULT, syndrome...Repeatedly...and thus,,,,LOW SELF ESTEEN.....:heart:


So you allow others to deem your self worth? That's a slippery slope don't you think?
In a PERFECT world YES,,,ALL MEN would know this and live this.
But with sooooo many different up-bringings and cultures of and in family values given to them.
Many are raised to never KNOW or FEEL anothers NORMAL..:heart:

So ALOT of PEOPLE will ALLOW others to make-them review their inner thoughts and THEY will try and change "THEM", even though WE KNOW thats not the way to deal with rejection.

With all the self help books, and all the couselors, and all the talk shows for God's sake, you'd think people would learn that confidence comes from within.

That you seek and do not find with in, you surely will not find without.

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Sun 06/01/08 12:51 PM




I'll pose my origanol question again....

What makes people's self-esteem get so low?
:heart: So many other loves or people putting THEM down and or lying to them about their love. Then making THEM feel low
ITS MY FAULT, syndrome...Repeatedly...and thus,,,,LOW SELF ESTEEN.....:heart:


So you allow others to deem your self worth? That's a slippery slope don't you think?
In a PERFECT world YES,,,ALL MEN would know this and live this.
But with sooooo many different up-bringings and cultures of and in family values given to them.
Many are raised to never KNOW or FEEL anothers NORMAL..:heart:

So ALOT of PEOPLE will ALLOW others to make-them review their inner thoughts and THEY will try and change "THEM", even though WE KNOW thats not the way to deal with rejection.

With all the self help books, and all the couselors, and all the talk shows for God's sake, you'd think people would learn that confidence comes from within.

That you seek and do not find with in, you surely will not find without.



So what you are saying is that people prefer to be miserable... and not help themselves?

they prefer to live the life they are "comfortable" with, and not the one that makes them happy?

lillith, you're right, I am a unicorn..... I assume that people want better for themselves.... I guess I was wrong about that. :cry:

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Sun 06/01/08 01:01 PM
NOOOOOOO!!! You have to keep that thought going, it is why you are a unicorn, they represent the love and wonder and light in the world. They are hope eternal.

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Sun 06/01/08 01:06 PM

I met this guy last night (don't get excited)He's a friend of a frind and we went out to a bar last night. He talked obsessively about his ex-fiance, and how they broke up around the first of the year, and now she calls him to do things, then cancells, how she tells him she needs him, and then talks about other guys to him, told me he was "addicted" to her.

In the course of the conversation I saw his VERY low self-esteem, so I talked with him for a long time, and told him that he needs to get his head straight, and STOP talking to her, until he gets his self-worth back, that she breaks it down everytime they talk.

We had stopped drinking around 1, and were drinking water/soda til after 2:30, all of our other friends had left and it was just he and I talking on the patio on this bar, anyway the bartender came out, and said he was locking up, so I was like "hey good to see you again, if you ever need to talk, you can call" He asked me to go home with him.......

Did this guy LISTEN to himself the whole night????

This guy is good looking, has girls throwing themselves at him, and he's obsessed with the ex......WTF is wrong with people?

I'm kind of offended that after that LONG talk about his ex and how in love with her he is, he would think for one second I would go home with him....

GAWD, people.... What is wrong that so many people have such bad images of themselves?


They think u will pitty them and sleep with them. I find it all the time. Move on girl.drinker

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Sun 06/01/08 01:07 PM


Ok fine. It is naive to think a guy will talk to a girl because she is a person and not because she is piece of ass.

That better?


At 2:30 in the morning after a night of drinking? yes.
Ok. at what time of day is a woman an actual person? And how sober do you need to be?

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Sun 06/01/08 01:08 PM





I'll pose my origanol question again....

What makes people's self-esteem get so low?
:heart: So many other loves or people putting THEM down and or lying to them about their love. Then making THEM feel low
ITS MY FAULT, syndrome...Repeatedly...and thus,,,,LOW SELF ESTEEN.....:heart:


So you allow others to deem your self worth? That's a slippery slope don't you think?
In a PERFECT world YES,,,ALL MEN would know this and live this.
But with sooooo many different up-bringings and cultures of and in family values given to them.
Many are raised to never KNOW or FEEL anothers NORMAL..:heart:

So ALOT of PEOPLE will ALLOW others to make-them review their inner thoughts and THEY will try and change "THEM", even though WE KNOW thats not the way to deal with rejection.

With all the self help books, and all the couselors, and all the talk shows for God's sake, you'd think people would learn that confidence comes from within.

That you seek and do not find with in, you surely will not find without.



So what you are saying is that people prefer to be miserable... and not help themselves?

they prefer to live the life they are "comfortable" with, and not the one that makes them happy?

lillith, you're right, I am a unicorn..... I assume that people want better for themselves.... I guess I was wrong about that. :cry:
The problem is THEIR reasoning and abilities to THINK like you THINK they should THINK,wink,lol
Most people are unable to change the person that they are after about 25 years old...THEY are who they are..and CHANGE will probably never fully take a PERMENENT CHANGE in who they are NOW. And thats because we all are, creatures of habit and routine....and once set,,,,change is allowed but not without resorting back to who THEY ARE!
If YOU have no respect for others and your in your twenties,,
YOU will probably NEVER have any REAL RESPECT for them.
But YOU can SHOW a faked interest for as long as that person can not FORGET to keep showing it,wink,wink,lol.

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Sun 06/01/08 01:32 PM
Edited by Just_Looking1975 on Sun 06/01/08 01:34 PM






I'll pose my origanol question again....

What makes people's self-esteem get so low?
:heart: So many other loves or people putting THEM down and or lying to them about their love. Then making THEM feel low
ITS MY FAULT, syndrome...Repeatedly...and thus,,,,LOW SELF ESTEEN.....:heart:


So you allow others to deem your self worth? That's a slippery slope don't you think?
In a PERFECT world YES,,,ALL MEN would know this and live this.
But with sooooo many different up-bringings and cultures of and in family values given to them.
Many are raised to never KNOW or FEEL anothers NORMAL..:heart:

So ALOT of PEOPLE will ALLOW others to make-them review their inner thoughts and THEY will try and change "THEM", even though WE KNOW thats not the way to deal with rejection.

With all the self help books, and all the couselors, and all the talk shows for God's sake, you'd think people would learn that confidence comes from within.

That you seek and do not find with in, you surely will not find without.



So what you are saying is that people prefer to be miserable... and not help themselves?

they prefer to live the life they are "comfortable" with, and not the one that makes them happy?

lillith, you're right, I am a unicorn..... I assume that people want better for themselves.... I guess I was wrong about that. :cry:
The problem is THEIR reasoning and abilities to THINK like you THINK they should THINK,wink,lol
Most people are unable to change the person that they are after about 25 years old...THEY are who they are..and CHANGE will probably never fully take a PERMENENT CHANGE in who they are NOW. And thats because we all are, creatures of habit and routine....and once set,,,,change is allowed but not without resorting back to who THEY ARE!
If YOU have no respect for others and your in your twenties,,
YOU will probably NEVER have any REAL RESPECT for them.
But YOU can SHOW a faked interest for as long as that person can not FORGET to keep showing it,wink,wink,lol.

That is untrue in my thoughts. If you are that unhappy then you CAN change it. We can only change ourselves no one can change us. Do what ever if takes, but don't use it to get some. If a person has so few friends that they need to talk to strangers, then seek help with a professional. That's why they are there.

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Sun 06/01/08 01:49 PM
I am glad you walked. Nothing is more nauseating than listening to someone rambling on about their ex. We all have them. Other wise we wouldn't be out looking for someone new. Well at least most of us. Sure it can be discussed when first meeting. I guess you can call it an ice breaker. My rule of thumb is 5 minutes. You're either over him/her or your not. Just like being pregnant. Either are or aren't. One girl I dated talked all night about her ex. I wanted to stick a pen in my eye.

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Sun 06/01/08 01:55 PM
I always say I wanna use a spork!

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Sun 06/01/08 02:36 PM


The problem is THEIR reasoning and abilities to THINK like you THINK they should THINK,wink,lol
Most people are unable to change the person that they are after about 25 years old...

That's BULLSH*T and sad that you think that.

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Sun 06/01/08 02:40 PM
I talked to my friend who knows him, and told her of the occurances, she said "Sorry I didn't warn you, he does that for sympathy"

Apparently women fall for it, and think they can "fix" him...

I'm sure I've spoken of my "broken bike" rule before... NO BROKEN BIKES...They go out to the curb with the rest of the trash...

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