Topic: Best fighter in MMA right now
msmyka's photo
Sat 05/31/08 10:49 AM

Yeah, that was great...Do you think Kimbo can get beat tonight???? I can't stand Mr. Slice.... but he is a bad man...... I just wish they would give him a real challenge like Frank Mir or someone who is just phenominal at jiu jitsu


I think Kimbo would be a very hard man to submit no matter who you are but yeah I think the only way to beat him is in the ground game.



laxviking57's photo
Sat 05/31/08 10:53 AM
I just think if Kimbo got put a guillten or rear naked choke, or **** even sometihng as simple as an ankle lock(what mir beat lesnar with) he would not be abel to do anything with it...

msmyka's photo
Sat 05/31/08 10:55 AM

I just think if Kimbo got put a guillten or rear naked choke, or **** even sometihng as simple as an ankle lock(what mir beat lesnar with) he would not be abel to do anything with it...



Yeah but try to get Kimbo in that situation in the first place.... not likely to happen

laxviking57's photo
Sat 05/31/08 10:59 AM
very true but it has been proven that he is beatable Sean Gannon did it though he is too scaredto accept the rematch

msmyka's photo
Sat 05/31/08 11:14 AM
Edited by msmyka on Sat 05/31/08 11:14 AM
Anyone is beatable so to speak. No one can be on their game 100% of the time.

laxviking57's photo
Sat 05/31/08 11:40 AM
Hey, I'm unbeatable at least unbeaten amature record of 15-0 granted I've faught one guy 5 times and another guy 4 and both of them were strictly jiu jitsu and could not handle the muay thai....

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Sat 05/31/08 02:59 PM





I hope you guys dont think the UFC is where all the "best" fighters are at, because the only names i see here are UFC fighters.


Fedor Emelianenko is a PRIDE fighter and he is the man! He has an almost flawless record and if you want to see an unbelievable fight check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QzX1ZadJM



Hey, UFC owns pride, so Fedor is considered part of that company...Hell, I will got out of that IFL fighter Ben Rothwell is one of the best heavyweights i've seen




Unfortunately yes PRIDE was bought out but my point is that the UFC barely scratches the surface of the worlds best fighters.


But, i agree is you simply read my first post the topic starter i put Dan Henderson down there also a pride fighter..... so on one hand you are right but on the other their is a reason why UFC is the most popular and the place every fighter strives to get to at one point(even if they eventually want to leave(tito)


I know for a fact that not every fighter wants to go to the UFC and Tito is waste of space anyway.... his MO is to not get hit in the face.... what a PU$$Y!


It appears that Tito is pretty much in a downward spiral. Unless he is fighting Ken Shamrock the outcome seems to be rather predictable in that he generally loses. And anyone fighting Ken these days should not be using the fact as a bragging right--I mean the man is about ten years past prime.

Drew07_2's photo
Sat 05/31/08 03:02 PM

I just think if Kimbo got put a guillten or rear naked choke, or **** even sometihng as simple as an ankle lock(what mir beat lesnar with) he would not be abel to do anything with it...


Yeah, it seems like there is a chance he'd fall into the Tank Abbot syndrome of nothing knowing what to do with a fight unless toe to toe and punching at large round thing that sits atop the neck.

-Drew

laxviking57's photo
Sat 05/31/08 03:03 PM






I hope you guys dont think the UFC is where all the "best" fighters are at, because the only names i see here are UFC fighters.


Fedor Emelianenko is a PRIDE fighter and he is the man! He has an almost flawless record and if you want to see an unbelievable fight check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QzX1ZadJM



Hey, UFC owns pride, so Fedor is considered part of that company...Hell, I will got out of that IFL fighter Ben Rothwell is one of the best heavyweights i've seen




Unfortunately yes PRIDE was bought out but my point is that the UFC barely scratches the surface of the worlds best fighters.


But, i agree is you simply read my first post the topic starter i put Dan Henderson down there also a pride fighter..... so on one hand you are right but on the other their is a reason why UFC is the most popular and the place every fighter strives to get to at one point(even if they eventually want to leave(tito)


I know for a fact that not every fighter wants to go to the UFC and Tito is waste of space anyway.... his MO is to not get hit in the face.... what a PU$$Y!


It appears that Tito is pretty much in a downward spiral. Unless he is fighting Ken Shamrock the outcome seems to be rather predictable in that he generally loses. And anyone fighting Ken these days should not be using the fact as a bragging right--I mean the man is about ten years past prime.


true but in my book ken is still the worlds most dangerous man.... Tito just spends more time focusing on acting and tv shows then training i thought it was clear that he had not trained near enough for machida on saturday..

Drew07_2's photo
Sat 05/31/08 03:10 PM
In his day, Ken was amazing. I mean, the guy was not just good but he was mean. I think now he has more mean than ability but no shot at him, he's just gotten older and that is no crime. I think however it was sad that he kept going after Tito (and likewise, Tito after Ken) because it just started to look sad.

Yeah, Tito got the porn-star wife, a few movie roles and just seems to be fighting uninspired fights now days.

Oh well--he'd still kick the hell out of me so I'll shut up :)

-Drew

laxviking57's photo
Sat 05/31/08 03:13 PM

In his day, Ken was amazing. I mean, the guy was not just good but he was mean. I think now he has more mean than ability but no shot at him, he's just gotten older and that is no crime. I think however it was sad that he kept going after Tito (and likewise, Tito after Ken) because it just started to look sad.

Yeah, Tito got the porn-star wife, a few movie roles and just seems to be fighting uninspired fights now days.

Oh well--he'd still kick the hell out of me so I'll shut up :)

-Drew


that is way i look at it if i can't beat the guy i don't talk much crap about him....

msmyka's photo
Sat 05/31/08 05:19 PM
Check out Fedor and Nogueira's first fight.... its fanf*ckingtastic! drinker drinker drinker

don2610's photo
Sat 05/31/08 05:41 PM

with all the fighters out there it's hard to choose but if
i had too it be.

Rampage Jackson

Drew07_2's photo
Sat 05/31/08 10:16 PM

Check out Fedor and Nogueira's first fight.... its fanf*ckingtastic! drinker drinker drinker


Yeah, it was a good one--someone linked it and Fedor was pretty impressive. Oh, and I agree that I gravitated toward UFC with "who is the best" but part of that is only because that is what I've been exposed to. I have seen Fedor on YouTube and on Pride re-runs but most of what I've seen is UFC based. That all stated I hear now that Tim Sylvia is going to fight Fedor and well, I think Fedor might actually kill him. I am not sure if Tim is on drugs or not but I don't think it will go all that well for him. Then again, I've picked fights stupidly before (Serra vs. GSP 1) and been so wrong. But if Tim wins you know we'll never, EVER hear the end of it from him, right?

-Drew

Drew07_2's photo
Sat 05/31/08 10:16 PM


with all the fighters out there it's hard to choose but if
i had too it be.

Rampage Jackson



Rampage is a monster right now. Good pick.


Drew07_2's photo
Sat 05/31/08 10:20 PM


In his day, Ken was amazing. I mean, the guy was not just good but he was mean. I think now he has more mean than ability but no shot at him, he's just gotten older and that is no crime. I think however it was sad that he kept going after Tito (and likewise, Tito after Ken) because it just started to look sad.

Yeah, Tito got the porn-star wife, a few movie roles and just seems to be fighting uninspired fights now days.

Oh well--he'd still kick the hell out of me so I'll shut up :)

-Drew


that is way i look at it if i can't beat the guy i don't talk much crap about him....


Totally agree--I mean as a fan I have an opinion but I know that those guys, all of them that get in to the Octagon, would make me look fifty types of stupid. I study a form called Byakko Ryu Jujitsu which is 80% Jujitsu and 20% Kung Fu. I've been doing it now for about two years and it is hard as hell, but I do it not to become an MMA guy (I'm 36 so that would be my coffin) but just because I enjoy it and if I'm going to talk at all about MMA or martial arts I should probably have been in an arm bar before. I have and I won't lie--it hurts. :)

-Drew

kkKen's photo
Sun 06/01/08 06:10 AM
It's between G.S.P and Anderson Silva for me.Hopefully the rumors are true and the match between these two will be made

laxviking57's photo
Sun 06/01/08 11:59 AM
One name we've all forgotten is Chet Congo....

Or Crocop before the Gonzaga fight....

kkKen's photo
Sun 06/01/08 03:45 PM
gotta say watchin his first fight,if he keeps goin in the same way.Broc Lesnar will be up there too

laxviking57's photo
Sun 06/01/08 03:58 PM

gotta say watchin his first fight,if he keeps goin in the same way.Broc Lesnar will be up there too


Of course I mean aside from that ankle lock lesnar killed mir... granted lesnar won that fight except the reff instead of giving a warning he broke them up when lesnar hit mir in the back of the head....