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Impeach ,impeach and impeach for the savage killing of innocent men ,women and children !.
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Wow! Where did you peple get yer lernins from?...lol. As much as I disagree with President Bush last time I checked one man does not make the final decision. If you think, both, Republican and Democrats are not lining their pockets with money through private contracts during this war you are completely nieve.Oh, and happy Memorials Day.
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Hey Sam, Let's impeach Abe, Ike, Truman, Washington, to name a few of the big ones. Now, go live in Keyna, Cuba, Cambodia, or anywhere else who may treat you better.
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I love it when the propagandized tell other citizens to get out of the country.
Oh, and Tiffany is right on the money! If you buy into partisan politics, then I've got Ocean front property to sell you, here in Kansas. |
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France--Nope-too expensive. Norway, Nope--too cold. Sorry, I'll stay right here, imperfections and all. Oh, how about Mars? Receent photos have shown that Mars, like the moon, is rich in nothing but possible ice tracks of a zillion years ago. 
Im going to Rome and Paris in January and then to Berne in Feb. I just might want to stay!! |
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By the way, let's impeach LBJ and JFk--the biggest war hawks the world has ever known. At least JFK kept Cuba off our backs. As for the guy who wrote before me--go on to France. I hope you can afford it. Plus the French don't like Americans much anyway. I've never done anything to a Frenchman so I don't know why. No, I'm not nieve(sp) stupid, or anything that you want to call me. I just been on this earth a lot longer than many of you. I've studied, witnessed, been there. Print this page out and read it in about 30 years. You'll see what I mean, and as I'll be long gone, you'll see what I'm driving at, and I'll not be here to say I told you so. I have earned the pleasure and priviledge to know that will happen. Happy Memorial Day although you haven't earned the right to be happy
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I am happy bush will be out of office shortly
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By the way, let's impeach LBJ and JFk--the biggest war hawks the world has ever known. At least JFK kept Cuba off our backs. As for the guy who wrote before me--go on to France. I hope you can afford it. Plus the French don't like Americans much anyway. I've never done anything to a Frenchman so I don't know why. No, I'm not nieve(sp) stupid, or anything that you want to call me. I just been on this earth a lot longer than many of you. I've studied, witnessed, been there. Print this page out and read it in about 30 years. You'll see what I mean, and as I'll be long gone, you'll see what I'm driving at, and I'll not be here to say I told you so. I have earned the pleasure and priviledge to know that will happen. Happy Memorial Day although you haven't earned the right to be happy Stunning Hubris, Now you're dictating who has and has not earned the right to be happy? You've been drinking NeoCon Koolaid for far too long. Bush's War on Children in Iraq DAVE LINDORFF Monday, May 26, 2008 Surely nothing that President Bush has done in his two wretched terms of office�not the invasion and destruction of Iraq, not the overturning of the five-centuries-old tradition of habeas corpus, not his authorization and encouragement of torture, not his campaign of domestic spying�nothing, can compare in its ugliness as his approval, as commander in chief, of the imprisoning of over 2500 children. According to the US government�s own figures, that is how many kids 17 years and younger have been held since 2001 as �enemy combatants��often for over a year, and sometimes for over five years. At least eight of those children, some reportedly as young as 10, were held at Guantanamo. They even had a special camp for them there: Camp Iguana. One of those kids committed suicide at the age of 21, after spending five years in confinement at Guantanamo. (Ironically and tragically, that particular victim of the president�s criminal policy, had been determined by the Pentagon to have been innocent only two weeks before he took his own life, but nobody bothered to tell him he was slated for release and a return home to Afghanistan.) I say Bush�s behavior is criminal because since 1949, under the Geneva Conventions signed and adopted by the US, and incorporated into US law under the Constitution�s supremacy clause, children under the age of 15 are classed as �protected persons,� and even if captured while fighting against US forces are to be considered victims, not POWs. In 2002, the Bush administration signed an updated version of that treaty, raising the �protected person� age to all those �under 18.� Treaties don�t mean much to this president, to the vice president, or to the rest of the administration, but they should mean something to the rest of us. But capturing and imprisoning children isn�t even the worst of this president�s war crimes when it comes to the abuse of the young. Under Bush�s leadership as commander in chief, the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan has been considering any male child in Iraq of age 14 or older to be a potential combatant. They have been treated accordingly�shot by US troops, imprisoned as �enemy combatants,� and subjected to torture. In the 2004 assault by US Marines on the city of Fallujah, things were even worse. Dexter Filkins, a reporter for the New York Times, reported that before that invasion, some 20,000 Marines encircled the doomed city, which the White House had decided to level because it harbored a bunch of insurgents and had angered the American public by capturing, killing and mutilating the bodies of four mercenaries working for US forces. The residents of the 300,000-population city were warned of the coming all-out attack. Women and children and old people were allowed to flee the city and pass through the cordon of troops. But Filkins reported that males determined to be �of combat age,� which in this case was established as 12 and up, were barred from leaving, and sent back into the city to await their fate. Young boys were ripped from their screaming mothers and sent trudging back to the city to face death. In the ensuing slaughter, as the US dumped bombs, napalm, phosphorus, anti-personnel fragmentation weapons and an unimaginable quantity of machine gun and small arms fire on the city, it is clear that many of those young boys died. This was a triple war crime. First of all, it was a case of collective punishment�a practice popular with the Nazis in World War II, and barred by the Geneva Conventions. The international laws of war also guarantees the right of surrender, so those men and boys who tried to leave, even if suspected of being enemy fighters, should have been allowed to surrender and be held as captives until their loyalties could be established. The boys, meanwhile, were �protected persons� who were by law to be treated as victims of war, and protected from harm. Instead they were treated as the enemy, to be destroyed. For these crimes, the president should today be impeached by the Congress and then tried as a war criminal. After watching this Congress cower from its responsibility to defend the Constitution, I have little hope of that happening. But I do harbor the hope that once Bush has left office, some prosecutor in another country�perhaps Spain, or Canada or Germany�will use the doctrine of universal jurisdiction to indict him for war crimes, and, should he leave the country for some lucrative speaking engagement, arrest him, the way former dictator Augusto Pinochet was arrested by a Spanish prosecutor on a visit to the UK. For his abuse, imprisonment and killing of children, this president should stand trial for war crimes. |
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By the way, let's impeach LBJ and JFk--the biggest war hawks the world has ever known. At least JFK kept Cuba off our backs. As for the guy who wrote before me--go on to France. I hope you can afford it. Plus the French don't like Americans much anyway. I've never done anything to a Frenchman so I don't know why. No, I'm not nieve(sp) stupid, or anything that you want to call me. I just been on this earth a lot longer than many of you. I've studied, witnessed, been there. Print this page out and read it in about 30 years. You'll see what I mean, and as I'll be long gone, you'll see what I'm driving at, and I'll not be here to say I told you so. I have earned the pleasure and priviledge to know that will happen. Happy Memorial Day although you haven't earned the right to be happy
Stunning Hubris, Now you're dictating who has and has not earned the right to be happy? You've been drinking NeoCon Koolaid for far too long. Bush's War on Children in Iraq DAVE LINDORFF Monday, May 26, 2008 Surely nothing that President Bush has done in his two wretched terms of office�not the invasion and destruction of Iraq, not the overturning of the five-centuries-old tradition of habeas corpus, not his authorization and encouragement of torture, not his campaign of domestic spying�nothing, can compare in its ugliness as his approval, as commander in chief, of the imprisoning of over 2500 children. According to the US government�s own figures, that is how many kids 17 years and younger have been held since 2001 as �enemy combatants��often for over a year, and sometimes for over five years. At least eight of those children, some reportedly as young as 10, were held at Guantanamo. They even had a special camp for them there: Camp Iguana. One of those kids committed suicide at the age of 21, after spending five years in confinement at Guantanamo. (Ironically and tragically, that particular victim of the president�s criminal policy, had been determined by the Pentagon to have been innocent only two weeks before he took his own life, but nobody bothered to tell him he was slated for release and a return home to Afghanistan.) I say Bush�s behavior is criminal because since 1949, under the Geneva Conventions signed and adopted by the US, and incorporated into US law under the Constitution�s supremacy clause, children under the age of 15 are classed as �protected persons,� and even if captured while fighting against US forces are to be considered victims, not POWs. In 2002, the Bush administration signed an updated version of that treaty, raising the �protected person� age to all those �under 18.� Treaties don�t mean much to this president, to the vice president, or to the rest of the administration, but they should mean something to the rest of us. But capturing and imprisoning children isn�t even the worst of this president�s war crimes when it comes to the abuse of the young. Under Bush�s leadership as commander in chief, the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan has been considering any male child in Iraq of age 14 or older to be a potential combatant. They have been treated accordingly�shot by US troops, imprisoned as �enemy combatants,� and subjected to torture. In the 2004 assault by US Marines on the city of Fallujah, things were even worse. Dexter Filkins, a reporter for the New York Times, reported that before that invasion, some 20,000 Marines encircled the doomed city, which the White House had decided to level because it harbored a bunch of insurgents and had angered the American public by capturing, killing and mutilating the bodies of four mercenaries working for US forces. The residents of the 300,000-population city were warned of the coming all-out attack. Women and children and old people were allowed to flee the city and pass through the cordon of troops. But Filkins reported that males determined to be �of combat age,� which in this case was established as 12 and up, were barred from leaving, and sent back into the city to await their fate. Young boys were ripped from their screaming mothers and sent trudging back to the city to face death. In the ensuing slaughter, as the US dumped bombs, napalm, phosphorus, anti-personnel fragmentation weapons and an unimaginable quantity of machine gun and small arms fire on the city, it is clear that many of those young boys died. This was a triple war crime. First of all, it was a case of collective punishment�a practice popular with the Nazis in World War II, and barred by the Geneva Conventions. The international laws of war also guarantees the right of surrender, so those men and boys who tried to leave, even if suspected of being enemy fighters, should have been allowed to surrender and be held as captives until their loyalties could be established. The boys, meanwhile, were �protected persons� who were by law to be treated as victims of war, and protected from harm. Instead they were treated as the enemy, to be destroyed. For these crimes, the president should today be impeached by the Congress and then tried as a war criminal. After watching this Congress cower from its responsibility to defend the Constitution, I have little hope of that happening. But I do harbor the hope that once Bush has left office, some prosecutor in another country�perhaps Spain, or Canada or Germany�will use the doctrine of universal jurisdiction to indict him for war crimes, and, should he leave the country for some lucrative speaking engagement, arrest him, the way former dictator Augusto Pinochet was arrested by a Spanish prosecutor on a visit to the UK. For his abuse, imprisonment and killing of children, this president should stand trial for war crimes. |
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War Machine, please tell me where you get your info. I'm sure you're right. I wish I could do something about it and everything bad that has happened since Adam ate the apple. All I can do is hope you can see that killing and war is not new. Ask Abe why he ordered the destruction of most of the South (kids, women and all) in his March to the Sea. Who instigated the Battle of Gettyburg which resulted in one of the biggest war casualities known to man. We're getting into human nature here. I wish I knew what to do, but I don't and all the retoric in the world will ever change that. All I know is that of this minute, I'm sitting here in Texas with the BBQ pit going, the AC running, and I feel pretty safe. For whatever our government is up to, it seems to be working.
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 C'mon sushi... move to Canada with me.
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War Machine, please tell me where you get your info. I'm sure you're right. I wish I could do something about it and everything bad that has happened since Adam ate the apple. All I can do is hope you can see that killing and war is not new. Ask Abe why he ordered the destruction of most of the South (kids, women and all) in his March to the Sea. Who instigated the Battle of Gettyburg which resulted in one of the biggest war casualities known to man. We're getting into human nature here. I wish I knew what to do, but I don't and all the retoric in the world will ever change that. All I know is that of this minute, I'm sitting here in Texas with the BBQ pit going, the AC running, and I feel pretty safe. For whatever our government is up to, it seems to be working. |
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Madison, I disagree. Now I'm going away. Don't bother to respond.
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War Machine, please tell me where you get your info. I'm sure you're right. I wish I could do something about it and everything bad that has happened since Adam ate the apple. All I can do is hope you can see that killing and war is not new. Ask Abe why he ordered the destruction of most of the South (kids, women and all) in his March to the Sea. Who instigated the Battle of Gettyburg which resulted in one of the biggest war casualities known to man. We're getting into human nature here. I wish I knew what to do, but I don't and all the retoric in the world will ever change that. All I know is that of this minute, I'm sitting here in Texas with the BBQ pit going, the AC running, and I feel pretty safe. For whatever our government is up to, it seems to be working. My info? Depends, Sometimes I get it from someone who took the time to research the topic and if you'll notice he sites where he gets his info from, whether thats the Governments own numbers, which were released not horribly long ago or the NY Times reporter who witnessed the atrocities mentioned at fallujah. Other times, I get it from the Library, the mueseum... I read alot, so sometimes I have to back up and source my own info. For anyone who has read history outside of a Government brainwashing facility, we call them public schools here, you would know that Lincoln was not a great president, he was horrible about civil liberties and wasn't some great liberator of the slaves, he used them as pawns in his game to stop the secession of the southern states. So rather than go ask Abe why he was the way he was, lets go ask those that print up our school books why they like to print lies? Lets go ask those who authorize these books and those who teach them why they endorse teaching our children blatant falsities. At the end of the day, we can't change our history... and some of it was really F**cking bad, just go ask a Red Nation Elder about their history of dealing with the U.S. government. We can however change our future, by standing up to whats wrong in our present, but thats very hard to do, when so many of our citizens get their knowledge from the aforemention Government Brainwashing Facility or from their T.V. sets. I'm glad that your having a good time down in Texas, I love it there, can't wait to go back. I just wonder, does the Ostrich who sticks his head in the sand feel any more or less safe than you have laid claim to feeling right now? Crank that AC up for me, I'm playing in Tornado alley and Mother nature has decided to rain all over my parade...so to speak. |
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Mon 05/26/08 07:03 PM
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Hey Sam, Let's impeach Abe, Ike, Truman, Washington, to name a few of the big ones. Now, go live in Keyna, Cuba, Cambodia, or anywhere else who may treat you better. There is right and there is wrong : killing innocent people from men ,women ,and children is MURDER in the first degree . The hawks or the neo-conons planed the killing of those who could not defend themselves : pure bulling and anyone who agrees with them is less than a human . What did they do in Katryna ?. What did they do to improve the lives of Americans ?. Talking about wars ,wars against the poor ,the weak ,those who have no means to defend themselves make them look savage and pure MURDERERS .
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I cant believe this is even a post!!! Everyone knows Bush should have been impeached!!! and his cronies!!! Is this a joke or what???
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I cant believe this is even a post!!! Everyone knows Bush should have been impeached!!! and his cronies!!! Is this a joke or what???
Thank you and thank you very much .  !.
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No problem!!! I cant believe anyone would stand behind that idiot!!! Look what he has done to your country!!! And you stand behind him??? He has basically murdered your children, took away your healthcare and education and yet.........you stand behind a guy who would do that to you??? Oil???? Ohhhhhhhhhh lets get 911 into this now??? Dear Mr.President??? are you an idiot??? You and your fathers fukced up oil deals gone bad??? killed a few people?? ohhhhhhhhhh lets get ALL OF AMERICA into it because we are retarded!!! Oh and lets not forget the other countries being affected!!! Ummmmmmmmmm hindsight??? ever hear of it???
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" DIGNITY " ???????
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" DIGNITY " ???????
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