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Don't forget, old Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger during prohibition. Ted's daddy would have been who you were scoring bags from if he was around today.
I completely forgot that it was easier to get pot in high school than it was to get alcohol. I think that's because it was still an 18 drinking age when I graduated. So yes, that is a valid point, a legalized system would decrease youth substance abuse and probably eliminate the false notion of pot as a gateway drug. But we aren't talking about recreational substances here. We are talking about the improved logic of hemp technologies and their uses. If I can never smoke a jay while walking down main street, that's fine. But I see no reason why hemp oils should be kept off the market. As a farmer, I can tell you there is more oil in those tiny little seeds you toss in the ashtray than in an equivilant number of soybeans or corn. So the use of hempseed to make ethanol would be a wiser investment of resources. Plus there isn't a farm in America where you cant find some hemp growing. The first crop is already there. Grandpa used to tell me that hempseed oil made a heck of a lot better treatment for wood than linseed oil. It held better and lasted longer, so why can't I use it. Because of some racist polititon from the 1930's? Don't forget, Mr. Anslinger, who led the criminalization movement, was looking to keep his job after prohibition ended. So really, in the course of the history of the United States, pot was legal longer than illegal. |
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I'm against marijuana decriminalization for the simple fact that it can hurt growing children. I knew a high school kid once who had diabetes. He'd skip school to hang out with his buddies and smoke pot, and it almost killed him. Before you think about what a great thing legalizing pot would be, think about what harm it could do to children. If you don't know how to raise your children so that they can make informed choices at the appropriate times in their life, that's your problem. I don't care about your kids. If the day comes I ever have my own, I'll teach them the difference between right, wrong, legal, and illegal (in case you didn't know this those are all four seperate things). I'll also teach them that there is a time and place for things, and that time is after your education is finished. But to keep adults in check just because someone is afraid of what might happen to future children is nuts. If I remember correctly, that's the whole point of adulthood, to be able to make rational decisions when you need too. And if you think industrial marijuana will lead to children dying of diabetes you are highly misinformed. The information on marijuana being a gateway drug is also skewed. Ask any pot smoker which drug he tried first, and I bet it would be (and this is very rarely on those surveys the government uses) alcohol. Yes, you're glorious legal and well taxed favorite friend is the culperate. No one thinks about it, but we all learn it is okay, to let go and party with a can of beer. Are you willing to give up your six packs "just to be sure the children are safe?" You worry about your kids, when the time comes I'll worry about mine. It wasn't my kid, so what do you know? |
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http://www.ridelust.com/hemp_powered_vehicles/ You do realize how many billions of dollars can be saved just by one piece of legislation legalizing Cannabis? You would give us the opportunity to end the need for foriegn oil, you could slap a tax stamp on the smokable stuff and you would be able to empty out these prisons. Clothes could be made from it,Plastic products... Plus this could save,bolster and even create more family farms. So much money could be made and saved, you have got to wonder what the hold up is. Great! Just what I need, one more reason for them to pull me over and do a search. |
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mnhiker
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Thu 05/22/08 08:30 PM
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I'm against marijuana decriminalization for the simple fact that it can hurt growing children. I knew a high school kid once who had diabetes. He'd skip school to hang out with his buddies and smoke pot, and it almost killed him. Before you think about what a great thing legalizing pot would be, think about what harm it could do to children. Well, if you're against it hurting children, then you should be for legalization, because right now the distribution of the stuff is in the hands of criminals, who could care less who buys it, as long as they are making money. By legalizing it, you slap a tax stamp on that stuff and then you can sell it behind a counter and check I.D.'s which would severely decrease the access that children would have to the product. Right now they could score a baggie of weed, after school and be home toking before the parent had any clue something was up. Sounds good in theory, but putting it in practice is the catch. Kids could still buy it from someone who has the tax stamp. |
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I'm against marijuana decriminalization for the simple fact that it can hurt growing children. I knew a high school kid once who had diabetes. He'd skip school to hang out with his buddies and smoke pot, and it almost killed him. Before you think about what a great thing legalizing pot would be, think about what harm it could do to children. Well, if you're against it hurting children, then you should be for legalization, because right now the distribution of the stuff is in the hands of criminals, who could care less who buys it, as long as they are making money. By legalizing it, you slap a tax stamp on that stuff and then you can sell it behind a counter and check I.D.'s which would severely decrease the access that children would have to the product. Right now they could score a baggie of weed, after school and be home toking before the parent had any clue something was up. Sounds good in theory, but putting it in practice is the catch. Kids could still buy it from someone who has the tax stamp. The same is true with everything, from perscription pills, to cigarettes, to beer. Prohibition never works and even some in law enforcement are starting to realize this fact. Go check out LEAP, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. Those folks have some interesting things to say about the Drug war. |
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Actually one of the best comprimises in the war on drugs that I read was in a book called the Phoenix Solution, by Vincent Bugliosi. He was a prosecuter for the county of Los Angeles for several years. You might recognize the name, he worked Charlie Manson's trial.
The simple matter is, you can't regulate morals. You cannot tell another person what is, or is not acceptable behavior in social situations. It's a matter of perspective and upbringing. There are real crimes that we all agree on. Crimes against persons and property most can agree are bad. You can see the direct result of the actions. But victimless crimes are of no real value to society. Does anyone here know how the drug war came to be in the first place? The push for the Harrison Act of 1914. (I kind of agree with the pure food and drug act of 1906) This law was pushed forth by the Upper-Manhattan Social Club. A group of twelve very wealthy ladies who were tired of their husbands going to the "Chinaman's" (opium parlor for those who don't know). So basically, every person in America had their personal liberties infringed upon because a group of rich old women couldn't keep their husbands under control. Hmm, sounds a lot like how alcohol prohibition got started, we saw how that worked out. Truth is all making any drug illegal does is open a gate for crime to grip society. When alcohol was re-legalized, there was over a 70% drop in violent crime. I'm not saying we should be able to buy heroin in the local 7-11, but we need to re-examine how we are going about controlling our drug culture as a whole. By the way, none of this has anything to do with the topic. |
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You realize hemp is not really smokable. I mean you would have to smoke a pound or something.
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You realize hemp is not really smokable. I mean you would have to smoke a pound or something. Oh you can smoke it, but all you'll get is a headache, if you're lucky enough to get that. Ditchweed rules!!! |
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