You generally hear a guy moaning about this whole mr nice guy business not being good enough for a woman when he has had a negative experience... or perhaps several. Then you hear women going on about how men don't pay attention to the propper things that she wants the guy to pay attention to.

Truth is, people have the right to choose who they want. Being nice, in the majority of cases quite simply isnt enough. It is about the chemistry between two adults. It is really quite simple. Try this... instead of dwelling on what you can't have, go out there and get what you want!

Thats good advice

Hang in there Fella!

I honestly don't bring that into new relationships. I have actually learned from it. I actually tried bring friends with her but she is the one that couldn't. I dont hold grudges, live is too short.

how about 1000s behind women

Exactly life is too short to dwell on the negativity. I would consider it a learning experience as to what NOT to do the NEXT time.

then women need tom stop lieing on there profiles. honesty,loyalty,thats all bull****

Please....don't even go there. Lying goes BOTH ways here.

I think if you are having negative experiences with women you need to look at yourself. Perhaps these women do want a relationship, but once they get to know you, they don't want it with you. From what I have read here from some of the gentlemen, I would run far from their negativity and generalizing. They are blaming all women for the actions of a few; and to me that show they have issues that they need to work on before they can ever have a successful relationship. So they will keep failing at it, and keep blaming it on the women. After all, it couldn't be their fault, could it?

Ok I am really not trying to come off as an @ss I am really not. The difference is I know what I do sometimes is wrong and I can admit it. I am guilty of generalizing sometimes but everyone does. Noone is perfect. What I have said is just my past and how it went. Everyone has their own opinion and that is one way that makes us all free.

How women portray themselves is one thing, what the woman in question is really like is another. It isn't "bull" it is a fact. Look at the woman for who she is... who she really is. If you feel comfortable with who she is then that is a start. If she turns out to be somebody who makes you feel uncomfortable in your self, then she might not be the woman you should be with anyway... Not all women are like that... Just like not all the guys are the steriotypical man women make us out to be.

I don't believe that. Most of the men I know are very nice.

we all do it to some extent. (I am doing it now)

someone said that women are liars; and my point was only that just because she says she wants a relationship, doesn't mean she wants it with you necessarily..perhaps it is just not working for her. It doesn't mean she lied. There are men looking for relationships, too, and that doesn't mean I expect that automatically means they want to have one with me, or else they are lying. You see?

I really dont have a low opinion on women though, but I do respect your opinion and Thank You

u just want all of us to be gay

you are confusing what we want with what you want.

I have had a few very nice men e-mail me, but who I have declined to meet. NOT because I don't think they were good men...NOT because I don't want honesty, loyalty or a long-term relatiionship...but because I am looking for someone who also has interests and beliefs in common with me.

I spent many years in a marriage with a man who had a totally seperate life from mine. I spent years giving up my life & me to try to fit into his life, somehow. I spent years 'standing on the outside looking in' on his life while my own blew away or past by. I'm on my own now...learning to be me again. I don't want to make that same mistake again. I'm looking for 'Mr. Right', not 'Mr. Right Now'. Maybe it is crazy at my age not to settle for a nice man who could care less about my interests or beliefs...but I'd rather continue on my own as a crazy old woman than settle for something less than who is 'right' for me.