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It decides my States Electorial votes! Isnt that how it works in your State? No actually that's not correct. Your vote does not decide really anything. That's why it is possible to have the "popular vote" vote be for one candidate, but they lose because it is based on the Electorial vote. your vote does NOT make the deciding vote in the Electorial vote. if it did, then it would not be possible for the Electorial vote to win over the "popular" vote. ![]() |
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I gave up watching television. It makes me want to shoot myself.
And I am not even suicidal. ![]() |
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I gave up watching television. It makes me want to shoot myself. And I am not even suicidal. ![]() LOL..yeh I know what you mean. Someone summed that topic up a while back in the threads. Now don;t quote me exactly, but it was something like back in 1983 there were like 56 media owned companies for broadcasting...now there are 5. ![]() ![]() |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Wed 04/16/08 09:55 PM
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Trust me!
In my State the popular vote decides the electorial vote! As far as Nationwide, the most populous areas, New York and the NE (cant manage their own states), Calif. (too liberal for my tastes), and Florida (retired folks), I in no way want to decide my vote! Thats what the electorial vote was designed for and it works well! Only three times in the history of the US have the electorial and popular vote differed. In a multi-candidate race where candidates have strong regional appeal, as in 1824, it is quite possible that a candidate who collects the most votes on a nation-wide basis will not win the electoral vote. In a two-candidate race, that is less likely to occur. But it did occur in the Hayes/Tilden election of 1876 and the Harrison/Cleveland election of 1888 due to the statistical disparity between vote totals in individual State elections and the national vote totals. This also occured in the 2000 presidential election, where George W. Bush received fewer popular votes than Albert Gore Jr., but received a majority of electoral votes. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#popularelectoral ![]() |
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Trust me! In my State the popular vote decides the electorial vote! As far as Nationwide, the most populous areas, New York and the NE (cant manage their own states), Calif. (too liberal for my tastes), and Florida (retired folks), I in no way want to decide my vote! Thats what the electorial vote was designed for and it works well! Only three times in the history of the US have the electorial and popular vote differed. In a multi-candidate race where candidates have strong regional appeal, as in 1824, it is quite possible that a candidate who collects the most votes on a nation-wide basis will not win the electoral vote. In a two-candidate race, that is less likely to occur. But it did occur in the Hayes/Tilden election of 1876 and the Harrison/Cleveland election of 1888 due to the statistical disparity between vote totals in individual State elections and the national vote totals. This also occured in the 2000 presidential election, where George W. Bush received fewer popular votes than Albert Gore Jr., but received a majority of electoral votes. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#popularelectoral ![]() Thanks for the specifics. ![]() I can't tell you all the specifics, because i don;t know all that are out there. I simply know that the popular vote can be one thing, but the Electorial vote be another and the Electorial is the one that decides it. So by just looking at the common sense standpoint, that would make it impossible for the "popular" vote to even count, since it is not factored in and it is the Electorial vote that decides it. Scary to think the majority of people would vote for someone like George W. Bush (and I am NOT picking on a party, I am niether REPOlican nor demoCRAP...I am AMERICAN and do what is best for my country) I mean just watching the man, he could be the poster child for MORONS! ![]() ![]() ![]() At least he has given a lot of material to work with to the comedians! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Wed 04/16/08 10:28 PM
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It is factored in.
In 48 States its the law, requiring that States electoral vote go according to that states popular vote. I believe Maine and Vermont are the two where the electoral is split! |
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The election in 1824 was a cluster-fk!
That one had 4 candidates, all from the same party, and each enjoying popularity to specific regions. It was decided by The House of Representatives! Jackson won the popular vote as well as the electorial, but The House chose Adams. ![]() |
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It is factored in. In 48 States its the law, requiring that States electoral vote go according to that states popular vote. I believe Maine and Vermont are the two where the electoral is split! That simply can't be. Please provide a link that would show this. Because it comes down now to simple math. If it is the "popular" vote that decides all Electorial votes, then it would be IMPOSSIBLE for the Electorial votes to differ from the popular vote and the Electorial vote would NEVER be possible to win over the popular vote. Again, simple math and common sense. ![]() |
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I also checked out your link.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#popularelectoral As it points out there, and it verified that this same thing just happened back in 2000, where Gore won the popular vote but Bush won the Electorial. Now that we have much better technology, don;t you think we should reform and go to the straight "popular" vote..the actual vote of the people? I think that everything is in place to be able to do that easily now, and it ensures the people's voices are truely heard. What do you think?? ![]() |
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If it aint broke,
dont fix it! ![]() Whats broke is the dumbasses casting the votes! ![]() ![]() too true......... The country is screwed up, but hey we may well have the first woman or black president! It doesnt matter that neither one is worth a damn, just that we make history!! |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Wed 04/16/08 11:07 PM
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It is factored in. In 48 States its the law, requiring that States electoral vote go according to that states popular vote. I believe Maine and Vermont are the two where the electoral is split! That simply can't be. Please provide a link that would show this. Because it comes down now to simple math. If it is the "popular" vote that decides all Electoral votes, then it would be IMPOSSIBLE for the Electoral votes to differ from the popular vote and the Electoral vote would NEVER be possible to win over the popular vote. Again, simple math and common sense. ![]() I'm telling you man the population of NY and Calif combined is bigger, by millions, than the whole of Canada!! NC has 9 million total, others have a lot less than that! In 1824, it was decided by the House because no Candidate had the majority of electoral votes! Jackson had the most but not the majority! Jackson had like 90, Adams had about the same, and the other two had about half that each! The Constitution (12th Amendment??) requires the President be chosen by a majority of electoral votes! States decide on popular vote. |
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I have to go man.
Early day! Peace out ![]() Fanta ![]() |
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Edited by
AdventurousOne
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Thu 04/17/08 10:18 AM
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I have to go man. Early day! Peace out ![]() Fanta ![]() Later bro! I think we can both agree on this.... If *ssholes could fly, Capitol Hill would be the busiest airport in the WORLD! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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