those were my sentiments exactly , but then i would be on the same level as they are.

When a child abuses a sibing it is rare for the police to interviene unless there is a documentable permanent injury that was witnessed by an unrelated third party or a forceable sexual component. While their is some support for a smaller or female child it is not consistent. If the sibling is not willing to abandon a parent to be the victim of an abusive child they are pretty much out of luck. The fact that if the woman you are discribeing does not have a child she isn't going to get any spot in a shelter herself. If a parent does call the cops on a "child" the majority of the time if anything is done at all; All of the children are placed in Foster care, not necessarily the same one, as the predudice of the court is if a child is abuseing someone it is learned behavior that the parents have "taught" the child the abuseive behavior. They don't care if the behavior is learned from and Ex or a neighbor or a gang or some other person your child has come in contact with you are expected to control your child's environment even when they are at school or other places or when you are at work. That a child can still be a juvinile and be bigger, stronger, have better job skills, and smarter doesn't matter. If you are a disabled parent it doesn't matter. Once a child learns that their responsibility is going to be excused they will up the behavior to the point that the entire family becomes terorrized. While a woman can be placed in a shelter system to be protected from and abusive spouse or even boyfriend if you have and abusive child; male of female, you are out of luck. Even if the child is and adult. It is even difficult to get a restraining order to keep a child out of the parents home. They can come in, at will, day and night disrupting your sleep, stealing your food and possessions, causeing problems with your employer, and or landlord, or spouse. If they beat you or their siblings and you go to the ER the hospital think you are drug seeking and either hurt yourself or were so "high" that you got hurt and are wasteing their tax money. They will question your story and make you repeat it over and over while displaceing you for other accidental injuries includeing self inflicted drug and alcohol injuries. The consistent experience is that even if a family tries to advocate for themselves and escape an abusive child the System will focus on reunification. Parents and siblings will be harrassed into participating in drug and alcohol treatment, probation and parole, and counseling sometimes even being charged for the costs.

if i could do damage or not--i would not just "stand there and do nothing" --

This was hard to read. I worked in a Battered Women's Shelter in GA. I was a battered wife. It will take courage for all involved to get out of the situation and to get help for all involved. It won't be easy for any one. For the sake of all involved eeryone needs to get out and be in a safe place. Once you are safe then help and healing can begin.

Rational people do irrational things usually because of a state of denial (love?), proper? No. As a parent (which I don't have plans for) grown children wouldn't do a lot in my home that I see them do daily, yes.

*wipes hands* There all taken care of, now I'm off to save the world and rid evil.

There is a little more to this story... The siblings involve are both adults (30 something years old) and of course the mom and dad. This took place in front of a child less then 14 years of age. The sister and child left to a friends house then returned the next night. The brother doesn't even live in the house where is occured.

My opinion is that the police should be called by someone, especial since the brother says he is suicidal.