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Wed 09/20/17 12:56 PM

((((Hii 2K)))))..:heart: flowerforyou




(((((lu_)))) I got your mail and I tried to respond, but you had already left.
I love you too! forever and ever my sweet friend.flowerforyou :heart:

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Wed 09/20/17 12:38 PM

OMG-anyone watching this? the first episode was so Hilarious! about the election when trump beat killary, and they showed the extreme left snowflakes freaking out, and the far right idiots acting up...
plus, the killer clowns killing the snowflakes...

it was great!


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/american-horror-story-season-7-cult-election-theme-premiere-cast-title-964286

I am definitely checking this outlove love love

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Wed 09/20/17 11:39 AM


good point....I only popped in briefly....and I will be taking all my crazy with me...laughing"...things should go back to normal soon....





tears nooooooo don't go 2k


:heart: :heart: smooched smooched That made me feel so liked,flowerforyou blushing blushing Thank you...MUAH*(((Hugs)))

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Wed 09/20/17 11:18 AM
Edited by 2KidsMom on Wed 09/20/17 11:22 AM
good point....I only popped in briefly....and I will be taking all my crazy with me...laughing"...things should go back to normal soon....

please do not Judge all of Mingle by me, I am one of a kind.
Welcome again to Mingle2.:heart:


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© slate.com

"Putin did it!"
Hillary Clinton recently claimed that one of the reasons she lost the 2016 race was because Vladimir Putin had a "personal vendetta" against her. Speaking to Radio Sputnik, US politics observer Alexei Zudin suggested that Clinton's problem is that she just can't accept the real reasons behind her defeat, which go far beyond personal politics.

"There's no doubt in my mind that Putin wanted me to lose and wanted Trump to win," Clinton said, speaking to USA Today about her book What Happened last week. The former candidate suggested that Putin had a "personal vendetta" against her and Bill Clinton going back to NATO's eastward expansion beginning in the late 90s, and over her support for protests against the Russian president in 2011 when she was secretary of state.

Speaking to Sputnik, Alexei Zudin, US watcher and expert at the Institute of Socio-Economic and Political Studies, suggested that Mrs. Clinton's problem is that even almost a year after the election, she still refuses to grasp the reasons behind her loss, or come to terms with it.

"Hillary Clinton was unlucky," the observer said. "She became the victim of a long-term political trend, which culminated in the collapse of the political orders, the political systems created by globalization. This collapse is occurring in the two main epicenters of globalization, with Brexit in the UK and Donald Trump in the US serving as the proof."

"Hillary Clinton cannot understand or accept this," Zudin noted, and to some extent this is understandable. "Politicians tend to consider the systems they have created as something eternal. But it doesn't happen this way, and didn't happen this time, either."

Therefore, the observer suggested that with her claim that Putin has a 'personal vendetta' against her, "she is insulting President Trump, and demonstrating her impotence and inability to grasp the reality of the situation in which she has found herself. There is a Latin proverb: 'Jupiter is angry, therefore [he is] wrong.' Hillary Clinton is no Jupiter, but in this case it this proverb is fully applicable to her."

In her interview with USA Today, Clinton reiterated her claim that Russia launched a "massive covert attack against our...democracy," and said that there was "no doubt" in her mind "that the Trump campaign and other associates have worked really hard to hide their connections with Russians."

Several investigations are underway into Russia's alleged meddling in the 2016 US presidential election. Moscow has repeatedly denied these charges, calling them baseless and absolutely unsubstantiated.

Comment: Killary lost, not only from a crumbling global world order, but from a crumbling self structure that allowed her to create a campaign built on her personal fantasies that included a privileged pass on lies, corruption, misappropriation, vendettas and likely a slew of crimes against other countries, the American people and those particular individuals she found necessary to eliminate. The evil she sees lies within her. She is not so much a victim of the times as she is a victim of herself.



i've always heard that if you keep telling the same lie,it becomes true in your mind...


Hillary Clinton has spent the last 10 months trying to figure out why she isn't the president of the United States.

"I am good," Clinton told "Sunday Morning" anchor Jane Pauley. "But that doesn't mean I am complacent or resolved about what happened. It still is very painful. It hurts a lot." Jane Pauley:

As the polls closed, Clinton's supporters gathered in a New York City convention center, expecting to see history being made. But as the returns came in, the celebratory mood began to fade.

"I just kinda went in the bedroom, laid down on the bed, just thought, 'Okay. I just have to wait this out,'" Clinton said. "But then, midnight, I decided, 'Well-- you know, looks like it's not gonna work.'"

After midnight, she called Donald Trump, the president-elect. And then she called the White House.

"I felt like I had let everybody down," she said.

Morning came, and the nation was waiting to hear from her.

"I had not drafted a concession speech. I'd been working on a victory speech," she laughed.

And then, on what she thought would be her first day as president-elect, Hillary and Bill Clinton headed to their home in Chappaqua, New York.

"I just felt this enormous letdown, just kind of loss of feeling and direction and sadness," Clinton said. "And, you know, Bill just kept saying, 'Oh, you know, that was a terrific speech,' tryin' to just kinda bolster me a little bit. Off I went, into a frenzy of closet cleaning, and long walks in the woods, playing with my dogs, and, as I write-- yoga, alternate nostril breathing, which I highly recommend, tryin' to calm myself down. And-- you know, my share of Chardonnay. It was a very hard transition. I really struggled. I couldn't feel, I couldn't think. I was just gob-smacked, wiped out."

Weeks passed. But she couldn't remain in seclusion forever.

"You know, after the first of the year, I had a big decision to make. Was I going to go to the inauguration?" she said.

Defeated candidates don't necessarily attend the inauguration, but Clinton was in a unique position.

"But I'm a former first lady, and former presidents and first ladies show up," she said. "It's part of the demonstration of the continuity of our government. And so there I was, on the platform, you know, feeling like an out-of-body experience. And then his speech, which was a cry from the white nationalist gut."

On January 20, Mr. Trump took the oath of office and delivered his inauguration speech.

"This American carnage stops right here and right now," Mr. Trump said.

Said Clinton of the speech: "What an opportunity to say, 'Okay, I'm proud of my supporters, but I'm the president of all Americans.' That's not what we heard at all."

Clinton had been so sure she'd be the one giving that inaugural speech.

"Well I know a lot about what it takes to move a president. And I thought I was going to win," she said.

The Clintons had acquired the house next door, to accommodate White House staff and security during a second Clinton Administration.

At a dining room table in that house, she wrote about "What Happened."

"I couldn't get the job done, and I'll have to live with that for the rest of my life," Clinton wrote in the memoir.



"My skin crawled": Hillary Clinton speaks about debate with Trump


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"My skin crawled": Hillary Clinton speaks about debate with Trump



So: What did happen? Hillary Clinton was supposed to make history as the first woman president of the United States.

"I started the campaign knowing that I would have to work extra hard to make women and men feel comfortable with the idea of a woman president," she said. "It doesn't fit into the-- the stereotypes we all carry around in our head. And a lot of the sexism and the misogyny was in service of these attitudes. Like, you know, 'We really don't want a woman commander in chief.'"

Her opponent -- real estate billionaire and reality TV star, Donald Trump, a political novice who had previously defeated 16 GOP primary challengers.

"He was quite successful in referencing a nostalgia that would give hope, comfort, settle grievances, for millions of people who were upset about gains that were made by others because—" Clinton said.

"What you're saying is millions of white people," Pauley said.

"Millions of white people, yeah," Clinton replied. "Millions of white people."

And then the Russians. American intelligence began picking up signals that Moscow was attempting to influence the election in Trump's favor -- both by hacking into Democratic National Committee e-mails and by spreading false information online.

"The forces that were at work in 2016 were unlike anything that I've ever seen or read about. It was a perfect storm," Clinton said.

But there were serious self-inflicted wounds too.

"Were there things that, had you not, but for that, might be the president?" Pauley asked.

"Oh, I think the-- the most important of the mistakes I made was using personal email," Clinton said.

A stream of explanations for her decision to use a private email server while she was secretary of state never satisfied critics or the press.

"I've said it before, I'll say it again, that was my responsibility," she said. "It was presented in such a negative way, and I never could get out from under it. And it never stopped."

Not even after the director of the FBI, James Comey, cleared her of any criminal charges.

"We cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts," Comey said, while adding a post-script that stuck: "There is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."

"I don't know quite what audience he was playing to, other than-- maybe some, you know, right-wing commentators, right-wing members of Congress, whatever," Clinton said.

The email investigation appeared to be over -- until late October.

With early voting already underway in some states, traces of Clinton's emails were discovered on a home computer of the estranged husband of her close aide—Huma Abedin. Anthony Weiner was the former congressman who was being investigated in a sexting scandal.

"Eleven days before the election. And it raised the specter that, somehow, the investigation was being reopened," Clinton said. "It just stopped my momentum. Now, remember this, too, Jane. At the same time he does that about a closed investigation, there's an open investigation into the Trump campaign and their connections with Russia. You never hear a word about it. And when asked later, he goes, 'Well, it was too close to the election.' Now, help me make sense of that. I can't understand it."

No new improprieties were discovered. But Clinton believes Comey's 11th-hour intrusion cost her the election.

And then there was the harm she believes was done by Bernie Sanders, her fiery populist primary opponent. Clinton writes: "His attacks caused lasting damage, making it harder to unify progressives in the general election and paving the way for Trump's 'Crooked Hillary' campaign."

But Hillary Clinton looks inward too, acknowledging a tone that didn't fit the political landscape of 2016.

"I understood that there were many Americans who, because of the financial crash, there was anger," she said. "And there was resentment. I knew that. But I believed that it was my responsibility to try to offer answers to it, not to fan it. I think, Jane, that it was a mistake because a lot of people didn't wanna hear my plans. They wanted me to share their anger. And I should've done a better job of demonstrating I get it."

There were some memorable verbal gaffes, including when she said at a campaign appearance: "You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables."

"Why do you think that word deplorable had been circulating in your mind?" Pauley asked.

"Well, I thought Trump was behaving in a deplorable manner," Clinton said. "I thought a lot of his appeals to voters were deplorable. I thought his behavior, as we saw on the 'Access Hollywood' tape, was deplorable. And there were a large number of people who didn't care. It did not matter to them. And he turned out to be a very effective reality TV star."

Clinton says she thinks her rival's opponents were "already energized" before her "deplorable" comment but conceded: "I'm sorry I gave him a political gift of any kind."

"It was a gift," Pauley said.

"I don't think that was determinative," Clinton said.

As the campaign entered its final month, the now infamous "Access Hollywood" tape surfaced. Two days later, Clinton and Trump meet in their second debate.

"After we heard him admitting and laughing about sexually assaulting women and being able to get away with it because if you're a star, you can do anything. So in my debate prep, we practiced this," she said. "The young man playing Trump would stalk me. And I practiced keeping my composure. I practiced not getting rattled. Well, it's one thing to practice it. It's another thing to be in front of, you know, 50 million, 60 million, 70 million people and having him scowling and leering and moving up on me. And-- it-- it was so discombobulating.

"And so while I'm answering questions, my mind is going, 'Okay, do I keep my composure? Do I act like a president?' Or do I wheel around and say, 'Get outta my space. Back up, you creep'? Well, you know, I didn't do the latter. But I think in this time we're in, particularly in this campaign, you know, maybe I missed a few chances."

Clinton says her career as an active politician is over but says she will stay involved politically.

"I am done with being a candidate. But I am not done with politics because I literally believe that our country's future is at stake," she said.

In the end, Hillary Rodham Clinton still seems gob-smacked by "what happened." She dishes out blame and she accepts responsibility. But while she's proud of her effort, she writes she was "running a traditional presidential campaign, while Trump was running a reality show."

"We have a reality show that leads to the election of a president. He ends up in the Oval Office. He says, 'Boy, it's so much harder than I thought it would be. This is really tough. I had no idea.' Well, yeah, because it's not a show. It's real. It's reality for sure," Clinton said.

"What Happened" will be published by Simon & Schuster, a division of CBS Corporation, on September 12


I voted for Trump......as I also voted for Obama.I always vote for who I truly think will be best...You guys have a great day...Thank you for letting me pop in,see you on the flip.:heart: smooched waving

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Edited by 2KidsMom on Wed 09/20/17 11:05 AM
To hear Hillary Clinton tell it, she was named for Sir Edmund Hillary, the conqueror of Mount Everest — even though she was already 6 years old when he made his famous ascent.

On a visit to war-torn Bosnia in 1996, she claimed she and her entourage landed under sniper fire and had to run “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base” — although videos of her arrival show her waltzing serenely across the tarmac, waving to the crowd.

She blamed the 2012 attack on American diplomatic and intelligence-gathering installations in Benghazi on “a disgusting video” when she knew almost from the first moment that it was a jihadist assault that took the lives of four Americans, including the ambassador to Libya.


No wonder the late William Safire, writing in The New York Times in 1996, at the height of the Whitewater investigation, called her a “congenital liar.” Said Safire: “She is in the longtime habit of lying; and she has never been called to account for lying herself or in suborning lying in her aides and friends.”

Baron Munchausen has nothing on Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Now comes the recycling this month of another Clinton tall tale: that shortly before her 1975 marriage to Bill Clinton, she decided in a fit of patriotic fervor and dedication to “public service” to stroll into a recruiter’s office in Arkansas and join the Marine Corps.

It’s an anecdote she trots out to charm military audiences, whether it’s a group on Capitol Hill in 1994, or, most recently, to veterans in Derry, NH.

“He looks at me and goes, ‘Um, how old are you,’ ” Clinton recalled at the New Hampshire event on Nov. 10. “I said, ‘Well, I’m 26. I will be 27.’ And he goes, ‘Well, that is kind of old for us.’ And then he says to me, and this is what gets me, ‘Maybe the dogs will take you,’ meaning the Army,” she added.

Yeah, right. Never mind that the term is “dogface,” used to refer to the Army infantry. And never mind as well that, given the tenor of the times, the Marines or any other service would have taken young Ms. Rodham in a heartbeat, especially given their need for lawyers.

Like so many carefully parsed Clintonian statements, Hillary’s Leatherneck fantasy is either unverifiable or dependent upon how it’s phrased. When confronted with the obvious discrepancy in her “Edmund Hillary” story, she characteristically shifted the blame to her mother, Dorothy, saying the fable was something her mother told her.
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But let’s assume for a moment that, unlike Clinton’s other whoppers, this story is actually, in some sense, true.

What are the odds that, in the immediate aftermath of Vietnam, the anti-war Wellesley graduate, who’d written her college senior thesis on “community organizer” Saul Alinsky, had a snazzy Yale Law degree, and who was already envisioning a career in state and national politics alongside Bill (then a candidate for Arkansas attorney general), would do such a thing — and actually mean it?

I’m betting zero.

A far more likely explanation is that Hillary entered the Marine recruiting office — if she did — not out of any desire to “serve her country,” but as an agent provocateur, determined to show that the Marines were a bunch of bigoted sexist, ageist pigs in order to fuel her sense of outrage.

This explanation is given credence by one of Hillary’s Fayetteville, Ark., friends at the time, Ann Henry, who said that Hillary was interested in probing the way the military treated women candidates. “I can remember discussing it, but I cannot give you the details of when and what was said,” Henry told a reporter. “Hillary would go and do things just to test it out, and I can totally see her doing that just to see what the reaction was.”

Given the mood of the time, and the vituperative nastiness of the left regarding all things military, it would have been just like the self-aggrandizing Hillary Rodham to try and manufacture a controversy where there was none, to make herself look good.
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And now she allegedly recasts the story as a legitimate desire to join the military, to show her dedication to public service. Is the story true? And if it is true, were her motives as described?

What difference does it make!

The late Christopher Hitchens titled his memoir of the Whitewater/Monica Lewinsky circus “No One Left to Lie To,” but even someone as perceptive as Hitch couldn’t foresee that the Clintons, like cockroaches and the Kardashians, would always be with us, forever playing the same shell game on the American people and laughing as we fall for it.

That would be the same Clintons (combined current net worth: $101 million) who were “dead broke” when they left the White House.

Michael Walsh’s latest book is “The Devil’s Pleasure Palace: The Cult of Critical Theory and the Subversion of the West.”















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Hillary Clinton’s million little lies
Fergie: It got 'weird' pretending to be with Josh

“He looks at me and goes, ‘Um, how old are you,’ ” Clinton recalled at the New Hampshire event on Nov. 10. “I said, ‘Well, I’m 26. I will be 27.’ And he goes, ‘Well, that is kind of old for us.’ And then he says to me, and this is what gets me, ‘Maybe the dogs will take you,’ meaning the Army,” she added.

Yeah, right. Never mind that the term is “dogface,” used to refer to the Army infantry. And never mind as well that, given the tenor of the times, the Marines or any other service would have taken young Ms. Rodham in a heartbeat, especially given their need for lawyers.

Like so many carefully parsed Clintonian statements, Hillary’s Leatherneck fantasy is either unverifiable or dependent upon how it’s phrased. When confronted with the obvious discrepancy in her “Edmund Hillary” story, she characteristically shifted the blame to her mother, Dorothy, saying the fable was something her mother told her.
Reuters
But let’s assume for a moment that, unlike Clinton’s other whoppers, this story is actually, in some sense, true.

What are the odds that, in the immediate aftermath of Vietnam, the anti-war What are the odds that, in the immediate aftermath of Vietnam, the anti-war Wellesley graduate, who’d written her college senior thesis on “community organizer” Saul Alinsky, had a snazzy Yale Law degree, and who was already envisioning a career in state and national politics alongside Bill (then a candidate for Arkansas attorney general), would do such a thing — and actually mean it?

I’m betting zero.

A far more likely explanation is that Hillary entered the Marine recruiting office — if she did — not out of any desire to “serve her country,” but as an agent provocateur, determined to show that the Marines were a bunch of bigoted sexist, ageist pigs in order to fuel her sense of outrage.

This explanation is given credence by one of Hillary’s Fayetteville, Ark., friends at the time, Ann Henry, who said that Hillary was interested in probing the way the military treated women candidates. “I can remember discussing it, but I cannot give you the details of when and what was said,” Henry told a reporter. “Hillary would go and do things just to test it out, and I can totally see her doing that just to see what the reaction was.”Given the mood of the time, and the vituperative nastiness of the left regarding all things military, it would have been just like the self-aggrandizing Hillary Rodham to try and manufacture a controversy where there was none, to make herself look good.
Getty Images
And now she allegedly recasts the story as a legitimate desire to join the military, to show her dedication to public service. Is the story true? And if it is true, were her motives as described?

What difference does it make!

The late Christopher Hitchens titled his memoir of the Whitewater/Monica Lewinsky circus “No One Left to Lie To,” but even someone as perceptive as Hitch couldn’t foresee that the Clintons, like cockroaches and the Kardashians, would always be with us, forever playing the same shell game on the American people and laughing as we fall for it.

That would be the same Clintons (combined current net worth: $101 million) who were “dead broke” when they left the White House.

Michael Walsh’s latest book is “The Devil’s Pleasure Palace: The Cult of Critical Theory and the Subversion of the West.”





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1. Hillary Clinton lied as a staff member of the House Judiciary Committee


Dan Calabrese reveals in his column that former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, Jerry Zeifman, indicated that he fired the 27 year old Hillary Rodham from the House Judiciary Committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation due to her lying and unethical conduct. Zeifman said that during the Watergate investigation Hillary lied in a legal brief, them removed evidence from public access that would document her conduct. (Source)

2. Hillary Clinton lied about flying into Bosina under sniper fire


“I remember landing under sniper fire,” she said in Washington on Monday. “There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.”

News footage of the event however showed her claims to have been wide of the mark, and reporters who accompanied her stated that there was no sniper fire. Her account was ridiculed by ABC News as “like a scene from Saving Private Ryan”. (Source)

3. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Record opposing the Iraq War


In Eugene, Ore., Saturday, April 5, 2008, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., attempted to change the measure by which anyone might assess who criticized the Iraq war first, her or Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., by saying those keeping records should start in January 2005, when Obama joined the Senate. (A measure that conveniently avoids her October 2002 vote to authorize use of force against Iraq at a time that Obama was speaking out against the war.) She claimed that using that measure, she criticized the war in Iraq before Obama did.

But Clinton’s claim was false. (Source)

4. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented her Role in the Irish Peace Accord


The historian Tim Pat Coogan told The Chicago Tribune: “It was a nice thing to see her there, with the women’s groups. It helped, I suppose. But it was ancillary to the main thing. It was part of the stage effects, the optics.” Former SDLP man Brian Feeney said pithily: “The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn’t on it.” (Source)

5. Hillary Clinton Misrepresented the extent to which her daughter was in danger on 9/11


Clinton said Chelsea had gone on “what she thought was going to be a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and, and, that’s when the plane hit.”

Responding to a question about whether her daughter heard the “rumble,” Clinton said, “She did hear it.”

Weeks later, Chelsea Clinton told a magazine that she was in an apartment 12 blocks away when the first plane hit. A UPI article said she was outdoors closer to the site when “she heard the rumble of the second tower collapsing.” (Source)

6. Hillary Clinton Claimed she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary


During a stop in Nepal while on a south Asian goodwill tour in April 1995, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in a brief (and reportedly coincidental) meeting with Sir Edmund Hillary (who, along with Tenzing Norgay, became the first person to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain, Mt. Everest, in 1953) and told reporters she had been named after the famed mountain climber. The notion that Ms. Clinton’s given name was inspired by the man who conquered Everest was almost certainly a bit of fiction invented for political expediency (as many critics have noted, Edmund Hillary didn’t become world-famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born). (Source)

7. Hillary Clinton Lied about supporting NAFTA


On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton “touted the president’s support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region.”

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that “the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement.”

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, “Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn’t hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill’s successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA.”

Yes, we are all expected to just forget that, so that Hillary Clinton’s campaign can manufacture supposed “outrage” that anyone would say she supported NAFTA – all at a time her chief strategist, Mark Penn, simultaneously heads a firm that is right now pushing to expand NAFTA into South America.

Penn was recently fired by both Columbia and the Clinton campaign. (Source)

8. Hillary Clinton Lied about her role in the passage of the Family and Medical Leave Act


Her campaign Web site boasts that her record includes “helping to pass the Family and Medical Leave Act.”

But the bill was pushed in Congress for years and passed twice, only to be vetoed by former President George H.W. Bush. Congress passed it a third time as Bill Clinton took office. He signed it into law on Feb. 5, 1993, barely two weeks after he became president.

Hillary Clinton’s own White House schedules, recently released, make no mention of any meetings on the bill. (Source)

9. Hillary Clinton Lied about her trip to Africa


Speaking in Pennsylvania two weeks ago, Clinton introduced former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson. “He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president’s trip the following year, which was historic,” Clinton said.

But Wilson didn’t accompany Clinton on her March 1997 trip to Africa. Wilson did accompany both Clintons on the president’s 1998 Africa visit.

“She made a mistake on that,” Wilson said. “She misspoke on that. I worked closely with her and her staff on the president’s trip, which she went on.”

The Clinton administration official who accompanied Clinton on her 1997 trip was Susan Rice, who’s now a senior foreign policy adviser to the Obama campaign. (Source)

10. Hillary Clinton Lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth


Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.

The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured…

Linda M. Weiss, a spokeswoman for the not-for-profit hospital, said the Clinton campaign had never contacted the hospital to check the accuracy of the story, which Mrs. Clinton had first heard from a Meigs County, Ohio, sheriff’s deputy in late February 2008.

A Clinton spokesman, Mo Elleithee, said candidates would frequently retell stories relayed to them, vetting them when possible. “In this case, we did try but were not able to fully vet it,” Mr. Elleithee said. “If the hospital claims it did not happen that way, we respect that. (Source)

April 7, 2008, Clinton partly vindicated.

Clinton erred in telling audiences that the Ohio woman lacked insurance when seeking help for her troubled pregnancy. But according to Casto’s account, Bachtel’s medical tragedy began with circumstances very close to the essence of Clinton’s now-abandoned account: the lack of insurance created a $100 barrier to needed medical attention close to home. (

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Crooked Hillary 10 Legendary Lies
1Hillary Lies to Benghazi Families
2Clinton Lies About Classified Material on Her Secret Server
3Secret Server - Hillary Broke the Rules & Lied About It
4Hillary Clinton Has A Lot To Hide
5Hillary Clinton Lies About Her Past Mistreatment of Women
6​Hillary Clinton Betrayed the Trust of the American People
7Hillary Clinton Made Millions of Dollars and Lied About It
8Hillary Clinton Lies to American Veterans
9Hillary Clinton is willing to lie to the American people
10Hillary Clinton Put Our National Security at Risk

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Dead Broke – In an interview, Clinton stated that she “came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt.” Something even the left-leaning Politifact found to be false.
2.Sniper Fire – During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.
3.Immigrant Grandparents – When discussing immigrant stories, Clinton asserted that “all my grandparents… came over here.” It was another story Politifact said was false, as only one of her grandparents was an immigrant.
4.Sir Edmund Hillary – Seems Clinton can’t even bring herself to tell the truth about her own name. She claimed to be named after Sir Edmund Hillary, one of the first men to climb Mt. Everest. One small problem though, the explorer didn’t climb Everest until Clinton was 6 years old.
5.The Few, The Proud, The Marines – Very recently, Clinton claimed to have been turned down by the Marines when she applied in 1975. Washington Post fact-checkers quickly realized the absurdity that a rising legal star at the time, and soon to be wife of Bill Clinton, would drop everything and ship off with the Marines. They gave her a couple of Pinocchios for her tall tale.
6.Secret E-Mails – Former Secretary of State Clinton claimed her infamous private e-mail server was set up in “accordance with the rules and the regulations in effect.” A federal judge disagreed, saying Clinton “violated government policy” when she used a private server to store official State Department messages.
7.Benghazi – Clearly the most reprehensible lie of them all – Clinton failed to tell the truth about a terrorist attack that killed four Americans in Benghazi. She claimed for weeks, standing over the flag-draped coffins of murdered Americans, that an insensitive YouTube video had incited the violence that occurred that night. Why? Because a terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11 – which it was – would have destroyed President Obama’s re-election chances. But hey, at the end of the day it’s worth it to Clinton to tell a politically expedient lie, so long as her party can stay in power.

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Wed 09/20/17 09:50 AM
Hiiiii(((((Joe)))))):heart: flowers waving

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Wed 09/20/17 09:46 AM
Edited by 2KidsMom on Wed 09/20/17 09:48 AM


Hiii Moedrinker happy Yea Alle, I would love to see this biotch burn


for what? Emails? while russian coercion in elections is probably no big deal or isolating someone to influence their investigation of a friend?

laugh

amazing



because she is a liar.


((((msharmony)))))flowerforyou :heart:

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Wed 09/20/17 09:38 AM


waterloo already answered your question that is the only place that show when a member signed up. so if they don't [ost in the forums you can not tell



I guess since I don't have boobs he skipped right over my post... And 2K, I'm fast approaching my 10th anniversary which seems like a good time to make my final exit.



I was thinking the same....on the boob scammer thing..I don't play that no more I know better, I would would pull out my rubber penis if I had to...lmao....

oh and yea I thought about the EXIT too...hardly have the time for it anymore...but I make time because of my few true real friend's I have and adore here.drinker :heart: flowerforyou flowers

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Wed 09/20/17 09:33 AM
If you could have seen me just now....I threw my head back and Laughed Out Loud......True shiiiiit right there....I have put on the weight ...been telling myself ok that is next thing....back to exercising.

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Wed 09/20/17 09:31 AM

waterloo already answered your question that is the only place that show when a member signed up. so if they don't [ost in the forums you can not tell




drinker

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Wed 09/20/17 09:29 AM
Hi E Thank you..happy drinker .I am munching on the new cinnamon corn flakes....

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ohwell laugh

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Wed 09/20/17 09:03 AM
Dannnnngggg that is one HAWT detailed CLOWN up closedrool drool drool drool

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