well I didnt READ or hear anywhere that Obama specifically mentioned Bush in this speech. So I question if he really is bush bashing or just american bashing.

because it was part of his speech.(Are we reading the same one?)

Even with the Cold War now over, the spread of nuclear weapons or the theft of nuclear material could lead to the extermination of any city on the planet. And this weekend in Prague, I will lay out an agenda to seek the goal of a world without nuclear weapons. (Applause.)

We also know that the pollution from cars in Boston or from factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, and that that will disrupt weather patterns everywhere. The terrorists who struck in London, in New York, plotted in distant caves and simple apartments much closer to your home. And the reckless speculation of bankers that has new fueled a global economic downturn that's inflicting pain on workers and families is happening everywhere all across the globe.

The economic crisis has proven the fact of our interdependence in the most visible way yet. Not more than a generation ago, it would have been difficult to imagine that the inability of somebody to pay for a house in Florida could contribute to the failure of the banking system in Iceland. Today what's difficult to imagine is that we did not act sooner to shape our future.

that is your OPINION that is what he is talking about.

I dont think Bush was around for the cold war. Or the spread or use of nucs......

and I wouldnt blame pollution on bush either.

One of these days using Bush wont be a viable excuse for when Mr Obama puts his foot in his mouth. or worse.

well u have a right to your opinion. your link had a tiny font and I was at work for the fourth night shift in a row. (not that I need to explain WHY i only skimmed it) but please forgive me...we were talking about the same speech. Maybe you believe its okay to kiss ass and apologize for OUR nation to other nations.. then so be it.

I find that incrediably ARROGANT. Also, Im sure other nations can view it as brown nosing, groveling, or worse. I think that it makes us vulnerable.

that would be a hurtful thing for somebody you love to say.
I would be very upset if my boyfriend told me that.

and i would think he had some clarifying to do after such a statement

Such an effort is never easy. It's always harder to forge true partnerships and sturdy alliances than to act alone, or to wait for the action of somebody else. It's more difficult to break down walls of division than to simply allow our differences to build and our resentments to fester. So we must be honest with ourselves. In recent years we've allowed our Alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there's something more that has crept into our relationship. In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.

But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what's bad.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-President-Obama-at-Strasbourg-Town-Hall/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13936886/President-Obamas-Town-Hall-Meeting-in-France-April-3-2009-TranscriptVideo-Link


i think its the same speech. I jsut skimmed your link....but this is transcript i found.

I wont make excuses for Mr Obama. and I PERSONALLY think he should be downgrading the country he is president over.

idk. maybe he is apologizing for the Bush administration and not americans in general.

still........i think its like brown nosing thats what I would call it. but hey we will see............maybe hes making awesome influential friends and peace is in sight.

Later, President Obama told an audience in Strasbourg that the US and Europe had allowed the alliance to drift in recent years.

He said the US had been “arrogant” and “dismissive” towards its allies, while there was “insidious” anti-Americanism in Europe. He said these attitudes had to change.


Idk maybe it was the same speech you posted..I just skimmed it.

these are the words I found offensive.

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/04/03/obama-calls-america-arrogant-during-speech-in-strasbourg/

and thats one of the blogs that it was found in. not the actual speech though

no. the moemorial sites have to do with the fact that many many times Americans HAVE answered to other countries calls od distress.

aside from how Mr Obama seems hell bent on portraying us.

When I have time, I will look for that other speech. because that last one you posted wasnt the speech that I was reading about last night.

that is not the speech I was looking at yesterday at all. I will have to look for that speech later. but ummmmm he did call americans arrogant and he does have the tendency to apologize for us.

loans? really that sounds exciting.

and other nations SHOULD be working together with US to bring peace to the mideast. (might I add quickly)
we shouldnt have to beg or bribe or whatever.

Obama does kiss azz in his speeches, and he has apologized for Americans "arrogance" while he portrays himself as this great man. Mr wonderful and all that jazz.



the OP was a forward from somebodys email probably. and mostly somebodys opinion. (read the last 4 lines please)
and they are entitled to think who they want regardless of who/what they are.

that is one of the beautiful things about america. (for now)
and I dont think Obama is who we need to thank for the freedoms that we do have.

to each his own opinion on that one

Ive read and listened to some of his speeches too. I have MY own opinion.

he certainly likes to talk.

waiting for an answer though....anyone??

After all of Mr Obama's foreign speeches (thus far) has it got him anywhere??

a deal on oil?
a new pair of shoes?
a new homeland for some new terrorists?
Isreal and Palestine are finally going to recognize eachother's right to exist as a state??

Or maybe he just likes to talk and thuinks that if he talks ENOUGH then everyone will just do whatever it is he wants.

Obama makes stupid speeches in which he is always apologizing for americans and aksing for help form all the countries that he visits.

whats it got him??

nothing. maybe he should try not being a pansy and see if he gets anywhere.

who the hell knows.


I havent really ever had a GUY that wanted to be JUST my friend.
(they usually wantttttttttt more)

and moreeeeeeeeeee


or not.

I dont think it started with Obama..........(the destruction of our economy)


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perhaps it will end with him.

No way of knowing.

noway to predict.

just look for super duper fabulous awesoem outstanding qualities in another. a