Reminds me of this XD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_sZ4DmUCw4

While I agree with you on the first part, Atheist culture is growing largely in developed countries. While in countries like Africa and Asia and many others, god/religion are still very common belief, countries like Canada and the US are much more enlightened. There is still way more religious people than there should be, I'd say give it another 50-100 years and religious people in developed countries will be very much in the minority. People are tired of giving their lives to someone/something that gives them nothing in return besides an after-death promise. It's like those terrorists that offed themselves and all those other people because of the promise of 72 virgins. That is just the prime example of how gullible people can be when it comes to religion, like lambs to the slaughter.

On a side note, them virgins only gonna be virgins for not even the first year, a few thousand years down the road it'll be like a hot dog down a hallway.

It's got a batman flavor to it and the city imo is done better than the one in the (recent) movies. The characters are not quite what you'd expect though (especially the penguin - it's a huge stretch from the danny devito penguin for sure...). I find it entertaining though, just don't expect to see batman anytime soon.

"Whenever I see a man possessed with such certainty, I always think he's trying mostly to convince himself"

Had to mention that quote, just heard it while watching Gotham but I must say it certainly rings true with the religious types.

That's a load of horse crap though. No one "know[s]" Jesus unless they believe everything they read in ancient storybooks and even then they still don't "know" him, they only know from what they've read since there's no current day proof. How's this for a theory; your god did exist but he's dead and we're all damned to an eternity in the grave regardless.



I agree with you on that much I suppose.. I'm waiting....

I find that you keep getting caught up in minor differences. Magic, miracle; Santa, God; Damnation, death. If you do not accept the unlikely existence of a god you are damned to an eternity of non-existence. Tell me that's not god being a dick "you don't believe I exist, now you don't exist, LULZ!". God is like the world's biggest troll.

Sure there is, Donald Trump XD!



If I was a father, punishment would come in the form of taking away smartphones for a week, not eternal damnation. There's a bit of a gap in your comparison there...




That comparison is also invalid. For it to be valid then there would have to be a bunch of different gods that rule over spirits in different regions. Jokes aside there is no one human that rules over all humans.

And again we fall back on the " you can't prove he doesn't exist" argument. Of course you can't, proving the non-existence of something that doesn't exist is a paradox in itself, especially when you're talking about something on a different plane of existence like a god in heaven.

Also like I've said before, A man named Jesus may have existed, he may have even been crucified but as for all that magical/mystical stuff in the bible, I think it's a load of hooey.

I find it funny how you take it so personal. I've already been through the period in my life in which I took the god thing seriously. I only stopped when I was around 27-28. So yes I have considered his existence for more of my life than I haven't. But when I grew up I started making logical connections/conclusions that dictate that there is NO proof of his existence beyond the stories written by man and the psychological bonds that people have based on those stories. You wouldn't be talking to god if you hadn't heard tales from the bible. You might be talking to yourself but that's about it.

Besides, the god vs. Santa comparison was hardly belittling, it was a perfectly valid comparison. two entities that perform magic (miracles) for pretty much the same ultimate purpose. Oh and you try to claim a difference between magic and miracles but turning water into wine, don't try to tell me that's not magic, it's hardly a miracle like those people NEEDED to get drunk so badly that it was a miracle that awful water was turned into an intoxicant.

Man, you cling to god like a life-raft in every scenario. Like everything must be connected to god and not the slightest possibility that the story of god isn't simply connected to everything else. Let me ask you this, do you still believe in Santa Clause? If not, why? They exist on the same parallel. Santa is around to make sure that children behave throughout the year and god is there to take over and make sure people are relatively good throughout their lives. Santa has parents,mall Santas and a crap-load of advertisements. God has the pope, the Vatican, JW's(door to door god salespeople), priests and a number of other god pushers. It takes a lot more to keep people believing in magical things past the age of 12.

As I stated in the edit disclaimer, psychology didn't exist in it's official form back then but of course it still existed. As long as there's been people alive and breathing with sentient thought, there's been psychology. Even animal psychology.

The government of your area may not personally know the members of the UN but that doesn't mean he cannot be influenced by them. Within the past century there was still mafia present in New york as well as other places and they had police in their pocket as well as judges and lawyers. One individual smart enough back then could have ruled the world without anyone knowing whom they were. I'm not claiming that it was a single individual though but a plethora of governing bodies. These people would have been the most rich and powerful of the time not to mention much like Hitler, they would have had control of some of the greatest minds of the time. Each of the countries/districts involved would have been told to have their greatest minds create a story that could grab the minds of the people.

Oh and don't fool yourself, people have been creating fairy tales for as long as they could write drawings on cave walls. It's hardly a new concept.
Just because we have technology these days and we didn't back then doesn't mean that they were a bunch of mouth breathing knuckle-draggers back then. People spent much more time just trying to survive and most didn't have the ability to read but those constraints were not on the rich and powerful. That's why everything has advanced for us so exponentially in the past century. Ya we have a lot more people but we also have a lot more people that are literate and don't have to spend 12-14 hours a day just staying alive.

Does he use Twitter or have a Facebook account? Oh, you mean figuratively, kinda like his existence?

To be fair he isn't actually claiming that god is talking back to him. Kinda like the concept of me talking to my vacuum cleaner XD. As for his claims of seeing god, I think he might want to get his head checked. From my memory of the bible(what little I have) you could not possibly 'see' god or your eyes would melt from their sockets (or something to that extent). Or perhaps he has seen god and this has happened. That would explain why he didn't say anything when we commented on his looks D-: . Sheesh, talk about a 'blind date" XD.

That doesn't surprise me. The Egyptians were still on the barbaric side when it came to the treatment of the people. It still sickens me that people still practice it in this day and age though. We got rid of electro shock therapy because it was barbaric but we keep around a barbaric tradition like that, that's been around for 100's years longer.

But ya, much of the OT had very human traits in it. I think that's why they made the NT, to weed out some of the errors that would make people go "hey... wait a minute...". On top of the parts that involve giving the priests 'goodies' there was the stoning of homosexuals. Likely a laundry-list of other things that were clearly human agendas as well.

Much psychology went into creation of the bible. I don't doubt that the people that made up the original bible stories were smart beyond their time to come up with such compelling tales as to keep people believing through the centuries. Things like psychology, facts and politics went into those pages mixed in with all the fairy tales. Very well done indeed.

Believing that stuff in modern day is just plain silly but the people that made it up in the first place were true geniuses and given the time frame and how much more susceptible it was to corruption and conspiracy; I have a theory that the world leaders of the time likely banded together to create religion as a way of controlling the people.

With the governing bodies and religion you've got the carrot and the stick and when the carrot is backing up the stick by enforcing all the same rules wanted by the stick then you've got a firm stranglehold on the masses and few will fight against it. I know that religion has been around for longer than civilized society but the governing bodies found a way to mold and control it to their benefit and to this day people are still slaves to it's influence. Right down to the stupidest laws/practices like circumcision and monogamy. Ya, baby dick mutilation, thx Jews!

Edit: Ya I know psychology in it's current form didn't even exist until the current century but when I speak of it's influence on the bible, I don't mean it in it's official form but only in what people learned in those times of how to control the people. The phrase Neuro-linguistic programming comes to mind but I can't think of an example at current as to how it applies.

As I've stated to you before, none of this is personal. IF you choose to take it as personal then that is your choice. I direct my debate at you only because you're currently the only one left arguing on the side of his existence/love (in this thread).

You're like a beaten housewife that just denies or makes excuses for anything and everything bad that her husband does. You even ignore how your own words contradict you. God doesn't send us to hell for not believing, he just kills us but you somehow see nothing wrong with that. It's worship him and live forever but if you don't then you're dead; you get to embrace that eternal nothingness that you fear so much if you don't believe in and worship him. Bit of irony there really; I mean the way that even within the religion itself it blends reality and fantasy and it does it so great.
Step into the rabbit hole Alice, all will be well..

In Spanish 'el' just means 'the'. Seems like a bit of a stretch to go from a very common word without much meaning in itself to 'god' but then I'm no language expert.

Oh good, you're up to speed then, lol.

The bible was translated from an ancient version of another language into an ancient version of English and then vaguely interpreted by modern day English speakers, who knows what the hell half of it initially meant when it was written.