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Sun 07/29/12 01:36 PM


Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda definitely do not have the know how
and the capability to launch such operations involving such high precision coordination, based on information and expertise.



Definitely? You have conclusive proof of this, or is this merely your opinion?


Osama is Dead and al-Qaeda are all but a figment of imagination.

Next Questionbigsmile

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Sun 07/29/12 01:29 PM
I get this weird feeling that someone is stalking melaugh laugh laugh

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Sun 07/29/12 01:26 PM
Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda definitely do not have the know how
and the capability to launch such operations involving such high precision coordination, based on information and expertise.

But they knew some people who did have that know-howbigsmile

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Sun 07/29/12 01:20 PM
Yes another 911 is needed by the elite otherwise 911 was a terrible waste of some of the cleverest criminal minds on this planet.

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Sun 07/29/12 01:13 PM
911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”

They more than like got a little help from some of their friends below

Some dodgy characters in this list.

Elliott Abrams (PNAC)
Ken Adelman
Richard Armitage (PNAC)
John David Ashcroft
Fred Barnes
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett (PNAC)
Jeffrey Bergner (PNAC)
John Bolton (PNAC)
Max Boot
Ellen Bork
Paul Bremer Lewis Paul "Jerry" Bremer III
David Brooks
Shoshana Bryen
Stephen D. Bryen
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Stephen A. Cambone
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula J. Dobriansky (PNAC)
Thomas Donnelly
John Doolittle
Douglas Jay Feith
David Frum
Francis Fukuyama (PNAC)
Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. (PNAC)
Reuel Marc Gerecht (PNAC)
Newt Gingrich
Joshua Goldberg
Owen Harries
Bruce P. Jackson
Michael Johns
Robert Kagan (PNAC)
Zalmay Khalilzad (PNAC)
Jeane Kirkpatrick
Henry Kissinger
Neal Kozodoy
Charles Krauthammer
Irving Kristol
William Kristol (PNAC)
Michael Arthur Ledeen
Jay Lefkowitz
I. Lewis Libby a.k.a. "Scooter"
Michael H. Mobbs
Joshua Muravchik
Rupert Murdoch
Richard J. Neuhaus
Michael Novak
Martin Peretz
Richard N. Perle (PNAC)
Daniel Pipes
Norman Podhoretz
Howard Raines
Peter W. Rodman (PNAC)
Karl Rove
Donald H. Rumsfeld (PNAC)
Richard Mellon Scaife
Gary J. Schmitt
William Schneider, Jr. (PNAC)
Abram N. Shulsky
Robert W. Tucker
Harlan Ullman
Vin Weber (PNAC)
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz (PNAC)
R. James Woolsey, Jr. (PNAC)
David Wurmser
Meyrav Wurmser
Dov Zakheim
Karl Zinsmeister
Robert B. Zoellick

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Sun 07/29/12 01:05 PM
There is one thing that everybody can agree with and that is...911 was not done by a handful of Islamic
fanatics.”

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Sun 07/29/12 11:38 AM
This is all about Iran and has nothing to do with human rights or the right to life or the death of Syrian babies.






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Sun 07/29/12 11:24 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sun 07/29/12 11:26 AM

Peace, love, understanding, frequent orgasms and a chocolate bar as big as my head.



Not a lot to ask for reallybigsmile waving

An understanding peace loving man with a big chocolate BAR

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Sun 07/29/12 11:21 AM

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Sun 07/29/12 11:19 AM









Just a smidgen of my studies concerning the black boxes...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/investigations/q0302.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_Aerospace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


The third link includes a list of several plane crashes in which the flight data recorders were destroyed...
Interesting Stuff!:thumbsup: waving
OMg this is it?

Do you not comprehend what you read?

The very short list of Black boxes not recovered lists the reasons some at an extreme altitude, others in very deep water etc etc. This is no case for an argument at all in fact it supports the fact that it is totally odd the boxes were not recovered on all four planes involved on 911. laugh
seems you haven't read it!
Pentagon was found!
Still wondering why nothing at WTC?
Well,think again!
Think DEBRIS and FIRE!a bit more Temperature than the 500F they could stand,for much longer!
But like I have said before,physical Facts have never stopped CTs before!laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Did they make it public Mr Conrad?

Would it not be in the public interest to hear and see what exactly happened?

I would suggest though that it was a plant.

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.
yep,love your Expert!laugh

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21931


Ain't that sweet...laugh
especially the No Planes Theory!
They can't even agree among themselves!rofl



We who want the truth are all individuals. It is not required that we all "agree" on anything.

But the one thing we do agree on is that we are being lied to.

And we all agree that the official fairy tale about 9/11 is absurd.

It is so absurd, in fact, I get the feeling they intentionally created it to be absurd just to mock and make fun of the American people test to see how really stupid and/or powerless we are to do much about it.

Or else they feel that they are so powerful, that they can tell us any absurd thing they want, knowing that even if we know it is a lie, we can't really do anything about it because they are the ones who control the Justice Department, the banks, and most of the world.

Either that or they are not so smart as they think they are.




I agree with all of the abovedrinker :wink: flowerforyou

We are on the same sheet Jeannie......:wink:

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Sun 07/29/12 11:14 AM
But what US administration would really want to see Bashar's atrocious archives of torture opened to our gaze? Why, only a few years ago, the Bush administration was sending Muslims to Damascus for Bashar's torturers to tear their fingernails out for information, imprisoned at the US government's request in the very hell-hole which Syrian rebels blew to bits last week. Western embassies dutifully supplied the prisoners' tormentors with questions for the victims. Bashar, you see, was our baby.

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Sun 07/29/12 10:35 AM
15 of the 19 hijacker-mass murderers of 11 September, 2001, came from Saudi Arabia – after which, of course, we bombed Afghanistan. The Saudis are repressing their own Shia minority just as they now wish to destroy the Alawite-Shia minority of Syria. And we believe Saudi Arabia wants to set up a democracy in Syria?

Saudi Arabia Bringing Democracy to Syria.

rofl rofl rofl

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Sun 07/29/12 10:30 AM
I'm sick of feeling my soul
To people who'll never know
Just how purposeless and empty they've grown
Because the language confuses
like computers refuse to understand how I'm feeling today

I'm freezing and losing my way
I don't need another map of your head
I'm freezing and losing my way
I don't need another map of your head

I saw a liquid control
That gives life to a soul
I hit my head on it and woke up to know
That I was all alone
Wearing just socks and a phone
Someone's screaming like their world might explode

Yeah I'm freezing and losing my way
I don't need another map of your head
I'm freezing and losing my way
I don't want another map of your head

Freezing and losing my way
I don't want another map of your head
I'm freezing and losing my way
I don't need another map of your head



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsHcvQRRsY4&feature=autoplay&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CwGV190qCkph_f_biZ99Q8&playnext=18

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Sun 07/29/12 10:28 AM
While Qatar and Saudi Arabia arm and fund the rebels of Syria to overthrow Bashar al-Assad's Alawite/Shia-Baathist dictatorship, Washington mutters not a word of criticism against them. President Barack Obama and his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, say they want a democracy in Syria. But Qatar is an autocracy and Saudi Arabia is among the most pernicious of caliphate-kingly-dictatorships in the Arab world. Rulers of both states inherit power from their families – just as Bashar has done – and Saudi Arabia is an ally of the Salafist-Wahabi rebels in Syria, just as it was the most fervent supporter of the medieval Taliban during Afghanistan's dark ages.

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Sun 07/29/12 10:11 AM
Those Black Boxes should have been made out of Passport materialbigsmile

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Sun 07/29/12 10:03 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Sun 07/29/12 10:05 AM
Bin Laden was a creation of the CIA.

Taken by themselves, Bin Laden and his band represent supermarket-caliber terrorists, capable of bombing a shopping center, or of destroying a bus. Any capabilities above and beyond this can only be explained through assistance provided by intelligence agencies, primarily
but not limited to the American ones.
There is no doubt that Bin Laden and his benighted gaggle would have desired to inflict destruction on the scale of 9/11. What is at issue is their physical and technical capability of doing so on their own. From this point of view, Bin Laden and company emerge perhaps as actors in the plot, but playing the parts of patsies, dupes, fall-guys, or useful idiots.

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Sun 07/29/12 09:57 AM
Good Morning Jeanniewaving

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Sun 07/29/12 09:53 AM
Donald [Tricky] Rumsfeld:

September 25 2001

Of course, this conjures up Winston Churchill’s famous phrase
when he said – don’t quote me on this, okay? I don’t want to be quoted on
this, so don’t quote me. He said sometimes the truth is so precious that it must be accompanied by a bodyguard of lies…. That is a piece of history,
and I bring it up just for the sake of background. I don’t recall that I’ve
ever lied to the press, I don’t intend to, and it seems to me that there will
not be reason for it. There are dozens of ways to avoid having to put
yourself in a position where you’re lying. And I don’t do it.

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Sun 07/29/12 05:01 AM
We cannot be entirely certain that the truth about 9/11 will ever become generally accepted by the masses, but if such revelations should ever occur, they will now destroy far more than the 9/11 myth. The dismantling of the myth in favor of an account at least closer to reality will have the most profound institutional implications

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Sun 07/29/12 04:42 AM
The dominant oligarchies of the United States and several other countries committed a serious error when they decided to accept the crude conspiracy theory peddled by the Bush regime concerning 9/11.

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