Community > Posts By > BigPapaRed
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BigPapaRed
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Mon 07/13/15 02:33 PM
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It really annoys me when someone cherry picks the parts of my statements they want to debate and ignore those that make them look bad.
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The murder of the 9 church goers who were old men and woman was a terrorist attack commited under the same premise as when it was widespread and common not long ago. The flag is but a symbol of those crimes and were committed while that flag flew in the hands of American terrorism. |
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Edited by
BigPapaRed
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Mon 07/13/15 02:13 AM
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I suppose this artist got a federally funded arts endowment too..........
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Edited by
BigPapaRed
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Mon 07/13/15 02:03 AM
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The murder of the 9 church goers who were old men and woman was a terrorist attack commited under the same premise as when it was widespread and common not long ago. The flag is but a symbol of those crimes and were committed while that flag flew in the hands of American terrorism. |
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The murder of the 9 church goers who were old men and woman was a terrorist attack commited under the same premise as when it was widespread and common not long ago. The flag is but a symbol of those crimes and were committed while that flag flew in the hands of American terrorism. |
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Edited by
BigPapaRed
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Sat 07/11/15 02:25 AM
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The man obviously doesn't have clue of what he speaks. ... or Confederate-Americans are remaining in denial. The destruction of the south and brutal reconstruction left a mark on every family there, black and white. Poverty also has a way of doing that. Their not in denial of anything. They paid a price as well. That flag to them was a symbol of the price they paid and their ancestors paid. Nothing more. For Blacks it represented lynchings, burnings of humans, repression, supression of human dignity and rights. The last thing a Black person saw before their deaths was that flag being flown by a murderous mob of cowards in silly white hoods and costumes. It had nothing to do with any price, it was and is a symbol of hate and the desire to keep the profitable system of slavery alive. Nothing more. |
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Let's chat ladies !! |
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yes i read it and both side had slaves and both side freed slaves as well as both sides bought slaves and then had them do work to pay back the owner so he could free them now we are all slaves , except a few at the top Black people are the biggest slave makers in the world.. They enslave their own people, and sell em.. Still going on to this day.. |
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This is just a shi* stirring thread.. |
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Quoting RebelArcher: QUOTE: MYTH � The War of 1861 � 1865 was fought over slavery. FACT � Terribly untrue. "" The Northern and Southern sections of the United States developed along different lines. The South remained a predominantly agrarian economy while the North became more and more industrialized. Different social cultures and political beliefs developed. All of this led to disagreements on issues such as taxes, tariffs and internal improvements as well as states rights versus federal rights. Slavery The burning issue that led to the disruption of the union, however, was the debate over the future of slavery.That dispute led to secession, and secession brought about a war in which the Northern and Western states and territories fought to preserve the Union, and the South fought to establish Southern independence as a new confederation of states under its own constitution. The agrarian South utilized slaves to tend its large plantations and perform other duties. On the eve of the Civil War, some 4 million Africans and their descendants toiled as slave laborers in the South. Slavery was interwoven into the Southern economy even though only a relatively small portion of the population actually owned slaves. Slaves could be rented or traded or sold to pay debts. Ownership of more than a handful of slaves bestowed respect and contributed to social position, and slaves, as the property of individuals and businesses, represented the largest portion of the region�s personal and corporate wealth, as cotton and land prices declined and the price of slaves soared. The states of the North, meanwhile, one by one had gradually abolished slavery. A steady flow of immigrants, especially from Ireland and Germany during the potato famine of the 1840s and 1850s, insured the North a ready pool of laborers, many of whom could be hired at low wages, diminishing the need to cling to the institution of slavery."" http://www.historynet.com/causes-of-the-civil-war "" Q. What caused the Civil War? While many still debate the ultimate causes of the Civil War , Pulitzer Prize-winning author James McPherson writes that, "The Civil War started because of uncompromising differences between the free and slave states over the power of the national government to prohibit slavery in the territories that had not yet become states. "" http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/faq/ "" What caused the American Civil War? It is amazing that even today, nearly 150 years after the Civil War started, there is passionate debate regarding the "cause" of the Civil War. Consider this: It is a fact that when the armies for the North and South were first formed, only a small minority of the soldiers on either side would have declared that the reason they joined the army was to fight either "for" or "against" slavery. However, equally true is the statement: "Had there been no slavery, there would have been no war. Had there been no moral condemnation of slavery, there would have been no war." (This was made by Sydney E. Ahlstrome, in his monumental study of religion in America A Religious History of the American People , Yale University Press,1972, on p. 649; it was echoed by Maj. General John B. Gordon, CSA, in his Memoirs, Chapter 1, first page)"" http://www.greatamericanhistory.net/causes.htm "" The US Civil War lasted from 1861 to 1865 and led to over 618,000 casualties. Its causes can be traced back to tensions that formed early in the nation's history. Following are the top five causes that led to the "War Between the States." 1. Economic and social differences between the North and the South. With Eli Whitney's invention of the cotton gin in 1793, cotton became very profitable. This machine was able to reduce the time it took to separate seeds from the cotton. However, at the same time the increase in the number of plantations willing to move from other crops to cotton meant the greater need for a large amount of cheap labor, i.e. slaves. Thus, the southern economy became a one crop economy, depending on cotton and therefore on slavery."" http://americanhistory.about.com/od/civilwarmenu/a/cause_civil_war.htm To state that slavery wasnt one of the main factors causing the Civil War is disingenuous at best, and utterly dishonest at worst. Its ones thing to protect that flag by illiciting history (btw, using that excuse, Great Britians flag should be flying at our nations capitol, right next to the Sars and stripes...ya know, history n all) and proclaiming "heritage".....and its totally another thing to try and omit that those states fighting in the Civil War flying that battle flag were totally in support of slavery. |
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It's a battle flag so stick it where there's a battle going on. Let it represent your unification abroad and stop with the infighting here. Oops, Canadians aren't supposed to comment on such matters, right No, all intelligent comments are welcome. There's REAL southern hospitality. To bad cooter couldn't be here in person but there's no one attacking canned fruit preserves, mama's buttermilk biscuits or checkered table cloths. Nobody went to war under that flag for the right to drink iced tea. As a matter of fact United States independence was won in part by iced tea and lots of it in Boston harbor. The south fought to keep out the industry of the north in favor of the slave driven plantations. Incase you were unaware the civil war did not start over a mean game of checkers. It was over slavery and the abolitionist movement of the northern Union. If you say that flag represents courage family and good times you don't know who Robert E Lee is but you can see some of his best work in Arlington National Cemetery. |
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Topic:
what women want
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What do women want? I think most women want to be treated as individuals and not be put into a small range of what seems to be a stereotype. |
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With all the backlash and protests over the Confederate battle flag I would like to see where everybody stands. My opinion is that it's a part of our nation's history. That flag is a a symbol NOT of racism and bigotry but of people who stood up for what they believed and were willing to fight for their beliefs. Were there bigots in the South back then? You bet. But there's bigots of all shapes, sizes, and RACES in every state. I welcome honest and respectful debate on this issue. Please follow all forum rules when posting.
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Topic:
Either you love...
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Needs more bacon. Js.
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Topic:
Experience with a girl
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Of course these other guys're gonna tell you to do it. There's a lot of men, me included, that find lesbian and bisexual women attractive. Best advice I can give you though is don't take any advice. You do who and what you feel is best for the pretty young lady you see in the mirror. Good luck in your journeys.
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Topic:
No friends why ??
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Just be yourself. Sure a few minor profile changes might help but chat around in the forums and let people see your personality. Good luck my friend.
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Topic:
Single in SEK
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New here and looking for someone in the Southeast Kansas/Southwest Missouri/Northeast Oklahoma area. Been played, laid, and almost slayed but now I'm looking for something real.
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some people here know my views, but here goes. I'm straight, but I have gay loved ones, including a "brother" who is getting married in Denver tomorrow. If stuff like this offends a person THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEE IT. But that doesn't mean that it should be removed from public consumption. It's like that People cover with Elton John, his husband, and their son that got covered up in Ralphs(?) grocery stores because the "Moral Majority" was offended. That stpes all over a homosexual person's right to their persuit of happiness.
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Sorry Junior, it is clearly stimulated in my contract NO consorting with men under 50 - it is insurance clause. * It is for your own safety , in cause I become annoyed * Bye now |
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Edited by
BigPapaRed
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Sun 06/14/15 09:03 PM
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Believe I might know someone here. If so hello old pal.
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